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What kind of material am I looking for?

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December 01, 2017, 07:16 PM
4x5
What kind of material am I looking for?
As some of you may know, I'm in the process of building an 8x10 camera, similar to this:



I'm at the point now of needing to make a bellows, and I'm trying to find a good material to use. In the old days, bellows were usually made of very thin leather, but I'm looking for something a little easier (and cheaper) to work with. What I need is a material (plastic? cloth?) that:

1. Is completely light-proof
2. Is thin and flexible, and will hold a crease
3. Is relatively cheap and easy to find.

Can anyone recommend something to try?

Thanks



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December 01, 2017, 07:28 PM
Chris42
Don’t know what to suggest but I have a bellows like that from an enlarger. Not sure the condition. If they are still in good shape do you want them?
December 01, 2017, 07:30 PM
4x5
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Originally posted by Chris42:
Don’t know what to suggest but I have a bellows like that from an enlarger. Not sure the condition. If they are still in god shape do you want them?

I appreciate the offer, but I don't think an enlarger bellows will be big enough. The rear of this bellows needs to be 12" x 12".



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December 01, 2017, 07:42 PM
pbramlett
Bristol Board paper?

Edit. Here you go.

http://www.instructables.com/i...large-format-camera/




Regards,

P.
December 01, 2017, 07:50 PM
Woodman
EDIT: Posted eight minutes ago ... I got sidetracked. Roll Out The Barrels on accordion ...

I just bought linen-backed waterproof scratch cloth. Very flexible. And some of the best old-style hinges are actually fabric. Think books. So that was my first set of ideas.

Did you know I play accordion? Yep, that is me downtown with the cup in front of me. Idea 2. If it needs to taper, accordion bellows would be out. http://libertybellows.com

Then the 3rd idea, making them. First buying a 3x5 set or 5x7 set on ebay, NOS Kodak bellows, to see how they deay with the corners, then making them with cardboard and fabric.

LennyB wrote a step-by-step ...

http://www.instructables.com/i...large-format-camera/
December 01, 2017, 08:07 PM
Oz_Shadow
Maybe a roll of gasket material.
December 01, 2017, 08:20 PM
FN in MT
I just did a search..."Restoring the bellows on a view camera". Got all sorts of hits back.

Have You looked at any of those?
December 01, 2017, 09:05 PM
4x5
quote:
Originally posted by FN in MT:
I just did a search..."Restoring the bellows on a view camera". Got all sorts of hits back.

Have You looked at any of those?

Yeah, I've been looking into this for awhile. I'm just not sure what to use.



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December 01, 2017, 09:27 PM
Fredward
Try oilcloth.
December 01, 2017, 09:34 PM
Scooter123
Most bellows made after WWII were a ruberized light proof woven fabric. I have a 4x5 Toyo Monorail that was purchased new in 1982 and that was the material used. It's actually rather similar to the fabric used for a changing bag but seem to be a stiffer and heavier fabric. following is a lonk to one possibility I found in a google search for "light proof rubberized fabric". While a thickness of just 0.005 inch seems a bit thin you may try bonding two layers using spray Contact Adhesive.

https://www.thorlabs.com/NewGr...ectGroup_ID=190#2536


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December 01, 2017, 10:51 PM
4x5
Ugh. I just spent my Friday night wandering around the fabric aisle at Hobby Lobby.





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December 01, 2017, 11:54 PM
FiveFiveSixFan
Here's a commercial bellows manufacturer that uses polyurethane-coated polyester.
December 02, 2017, 12:38 AM
4x5
quote:
Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:
Here's a commercial bellows manufacturer that uses polyurethane-coated polyester.

You might be on to something there. Thanks for the link.



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