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I can name a handful off the top of my head of the military brass that were willfully complicit in the clumsy and embarrassing withdraw out of Afghanistan. Looks like new SECDEF Hegseth is going to start bringing the pain to the decision-makers. I know we have members that were involved with this whole saga, I'll let them comment with their first-hand experience with how things went down and the asinine decisions & actions that were made during the months/weeks/days involved. Hegseth Has Tapped Investigators for Botched Afghanistan Withdrawal: ‘Accountability Will Be Coming’
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Will there be Public Hangings? Or just a light Flogging? _________________________ | |||
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I’d rather permanent exile in Afghanistan as their just reward. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Leaving the equipment and weapons behind, not sure if that was provably in court criminal, but 100% grossly, egregiously incompetent. "The Almighty, He put some livin' things on this earth so a man can eat." - Festus Haggen, Gunsmoke | |||
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And China has one, of everything for reverse engineering, as well as, mineral rights to the largest deposits of lithium in the world. In addition to the loss of personnel during the exit, this is the single intentional act of treason by the Biden Admin. _________________________ | |||
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You assume much by assuming so little. Clearly the Biden Admin hated America, AND hated Americans, so let's not jump to any conclusions just yet. Their capacity to do evil was quite breathtaking and there's a whole lot of layers to the onion yet to be revealed. Trump's Team is just getting started and if I'm a betting man, we've only seen the tip of the iceberg. ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Making America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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I was in Afghanistan a number of years prior. all those senior officials that cited bar graphs and pie charts that supported an opinion that Afghan national forces like army and police were solidifying and “with just a bit more time and money can be trusted to function independently without U.S. support” need to be taken to task as well. The primary role for my unit at the time was the equipping and training of ANA/ANP units, and despite our best efforts any of our embedded training teams could tell you how out of touch those data points were. Our entire COIN ( counterinsurgency) program was based off flawed concepts that simply were not grounded in reality. An approach that worked to some degree in Iraq ( you can debate this too- I was there as well) was not going to work in Afghanistan with a different culture terrain history and demographic of people, but the senior brass took a one size fits all approach that utterly failed. | |||
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In a way, was a no-win situation. We couldn't stay there forever. We were unwilling to conquer, occupy and pacify it in the manner of Japan. There was no scenario I can think of that didn't eventually have the Taliban retaking it. They still didn't have to be handed it on the proverbial silver platter. "The Almighty, He put some livin' things on this earth so a man can eat." - Festus Haggen, Gunsmoke | |||
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I'm still pissed about the dogs! | |||
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I enjoyed the book Kabul with its details. Biden’s botched withdrawal is at the top of my list of things to hate him for. P229 | |||
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Not that I need to be more upset, but what dogs? ________________________________________________ | |||
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^^^ My guess is those used by the military for guard duty, tracking, bomb sniffing and so on. Dogs are regarded as "unclean" animals in Islam, so you can guess where it goes from there. At the very least they'll be left to fend for themselves and go feral.This message has been edited. Last edited by: egregore, "The Almighty, He put some livin' things on this earth so a man can eat." - Festus Haggen, Gunsmoke | |||
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