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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
Saw this elsewhere and though it was cool. It's said to be a model "350 Ramac", with a 5000 character (or about 3.75MB) capacity. And to get 3TB worth of them - which now, a touch more than 60years later - is available in pocket sized drives - you would have needed about 750,000 of these massive units: Pretty cool... | ||
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Really makes you think where we'll be in another 60 years. Thanks for the photo. | |||
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Conservative Behind Enemy Lines |
Just imagine how long it took to read all that data - all 3.75 MB of it! | |||
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It's huge!!! Hell, you could store 3.7 M "bites" of a ham sandwich in that chassis | |||
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Grapes of Wrath |
"The first IBM drive, the 350 RAMAC, was approximately the size of two refrigerators and stored 5 million 6-bit characters (the equivalent of 3.75 million 8-bit bytes) on a stack of 50 discs." https://www.ibm.com/developerw...t_on_storage?lang=en | |||
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stupid beyond all belief |
Thats a big crowd too. What man is a man that does not make the world better. -Balian of Ibelin Only boring people get bored. - Ruth Burke | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Replace the gawkers in that photo with sailors in dungarees, the old cars with '60's models and take the IBM sign off the cover and it would resemble the delivery of the Univac 9000 at North Island in 1969 that I supervised. It had 2 tape drives the size of phone booths, 8k of memory, a printer, card punch and card reader. A moving van backed up to the big double doors to the data center and a group of men, all supervisors(!) hauled it in from the truck, with the customary confusion and sweating and swearing. It cost the Navy $50,000 I was told. I don't know if that included the special black box to interface between 8 bit bytes and 36 bit words. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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No double standards |
One of my first job assignments after grad school was to do the cost analysis/justification for a removable hard drive on a DEC computer, used for a DoD contract. IIRC the cost was ~$25K, the capacity was 256 KB. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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A day late, and a dollar short |
The quantum leap in technology just amazes me. ____________________________ NRA Life Member, Annual Member GOA, MGO Annual Member | |||
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Woke up today.. Great day! |
They really came a long way....when I was in my 20's I was installing 20MB hard drives that were the size of washing machines. We used to keep vacuum belts in our kits as they were belt drive and the belts broke all the time. If you picture a washing machine the writing was done on the outside of the cylindrical drum. | |||
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Back in the eighties and early nineties I worked on some large disk drives, just not that big. One of the types I worked on was waist high, contained two disk drives with a capacity of 65Mb per spindle. If the customer wanted to be able to swap the disks around to different drives the heads needed to be aligned on the drives. This involved using an alignment disk, an oscilloscope, voltmeter and run box. Ah, the good old days of actually having to work on a computer. I enjoyed my job back then. "Lion Heart is all heart, Smarty Jones is all out!!!" | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
FFwd to the late 1980's. We were selling Seagate 20mb kits w/ controller for around $400 as I recall > LIKE HOTCAKES! | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
I helped install a Control Data Corp. 3600 computer system at a Sandia Corp. site at Livermore, CA in the late 60's. The system included a Dataproducts disk drive, physically larger, and greater capacity. And it had to be pushed up a ramp like the one in the photo. And it cracked the ramp! The drive had two vertical spindles, each with 12 (?) disks about 3' in diameter. The disks had to be cleaned occasionally. Plexiglass covers were removed, then a 3' wood rod, with alcohol-soaked gauze wrapped around one end, was pushed and pulled over the surface of the disks. The gauze soon had a reddish stain from loosened iron oxide. Those Plexiglass covers were clear, so the movement of the head assemblies, operated by linear motors, could be observed. Very fast, yet precise – fascinating to watch. Serious about crackers | |||
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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
I once sold the Sultan of Brunei a whopping 1MB of Kingston RAM...for $1200. | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
Or maybe 6-bit bytes, plus a parity bit… Serious about crackers | |||
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Purveyor of Fine Avatars |
Other technology milestones: In 1997, it took just over an hour to download a 1MB file. Now, it takes less than a minute to download 1GB, which is 1000 times larger. "I'm yet another resource-consuming kid in an overpopulated planet raised to an alarming extent by Hollywood and Madison Avenue, poised with my cynical and alienated peers to take over the world when you're old and weak!" - Calvin, "Calvin & Hobbes" | |||
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My first computer was a Univac with vacuum tubes. It was classified top-secret and I couldn't tell anyone where I worked or what I did. U.S. Army, Retired | |||
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Why don’t you fix your little problem and light this candle |
The thing had vacuum tubes. I collect the old drives but I have not been able to get anything this big. The move to transistors really was a game changer. This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson | |||
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You could probably toast that ham sandwich on the chassis, too. | |||
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No double standards |
In the early 90's I attended a Silicon Valley luncheon, the guest speaker was Bill Joy, cofounder and technical lead of Sun Microsystems. He displayed a price/performance curve of computer technology since about 1955, and commented they felt the curve would continue at that rate, without any plateau, indefinitely. I didn't believe it, all technology reaches some sort of natural limit. So far he is correct. Sidenote on Bill Joy. One year his staff at Sun dismantled a VW Bug, carried the parts into his office, and reassembled it. There was a surprise the next morning when he went to work. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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