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Do-it-yourself oil change guys: Oil filter won't come off.
May 28, 2017, 04:17 PM
Excam_ManDo-it-yourself oil change guys: Oil filter won't come off.
Not a filter, but I know of someone who had their oil plug come out going down the freeway. Oil was recently changed at the dealership.
And yes, the dealership stood behind the repair.
May 28, 2017, 04:46 PM
desmosedeciHaving sold motorcycles for decades and having always changed my own oil most brands of vehicles use a specific size filter cup for removal. The cup fits over the filter bottom and has most often a 3/8 socket head welded to bottom of cup where you can use an extension and also a breaker bar or ratchet if the filter location is small. These cups are for sale at most auto parts or dealers.
May 28, 2017, 04:58 PM
DamageIncquote:
Originally posted by desmosedeci:
Having sold motorcycles for decades and having always changed my own oil most brands of vehicles use a specific size filter cup for removal. The cup fits over the filter bottom and has most often a 3/8 socket head welded to bottom of cup where you can use an extension and also a breaker bar or ratchet if the filter location is small. These cups are for sale at most auto parts or dealers.
The bad thing is that different brands of filters (for the same vehicle) won't always use the same cup wrench. But if you always use the same brand, it won't matter.
When a filter is really tough to remove, it's often because some dipshit didn't lube the gasket when installing, and not just from overtightening.
May 28, 2017, 05:06 PM
ontmarkquote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:
This type has worked for me in the past when I did not have a proper fitting wrench.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Hus...nch-HU3JFW/204762449 
I have used this type before. They really work.
You can use a strap wrench also with the use of one of these.
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May 28, 2017, 06:58 PM
jimmy123xI also really like the oil filter pliers for various sized filters and hard to reach places. A lot of times they're easier to get a grip and turn and reposition in small increments over the old style filter wrench. They make smaller ones than these as well.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/TEK...852758671_pkw__pmt__May 28, 2017, 07:20 PM
GeorgeairI'm not saying I missed a filter gasket stuck to mount and put second one over top. But WOW that took a lot of oil dri!
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May 28, 2017, 08:14 PM
Oldriderquote:
Originally posted by egregore:
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Originally posted by hrcjon:
Second to one of the above using a K&N filter is just asking for trouble.
While I think their air filters are overrated (leave this for another time), but what's wrong with their
oil filters?
I think nothing. But I've seen a motor with the K&N oil filter stuck really, really, REALLY tight. Yes, they had lubed the gasket...and used a breaker bar to crank it on. That's probably what was being pointed out.
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May 28, 2017, 10:07 PM
Tailhook 84quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:You mean like a standard aircraft oil filter?
Yes, but that extra tack-welded socket end drives up the cost to $19.50 at Aircraft Spruce. I don't think your average Joe is going to pay that just for the convenience of making it easier to remove.
Unless, of course, there is something amazingly different about an aircraft oil filter that drives the price up 4X.
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chellim1The Lisle 57010 Import Oil Filter Swivel Wrench arrived today. I like it! Nice tool.
Thanks for all of the recommendations.
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-rduckwor June 01, 2017, 02:39 PM
Aquabirdquote:
Originally posted by XLT:
If they would simply put a 3/8 drive stamped into the end of filter itself it would solve all the filter wrench problems, kind of like when they went from using oil cans to plastic bottles.
I think it is K&N filters that do that..or is it Amsoil filters?
The oil filters are put on by an air driven machine at the factory...at least some factories.
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June 01, 2017, 04:32 PM
wrightdquote:
Originally posted by jehzsa:
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Originally posted by alreadydead:
Along the same lines of this thread; Have any of you ever heard of an oil filter coming loose and leaking when not tighten enough?
I am not talking about the double gasket failure.
Yes, a Ferrari. From a mechanic who dealt with it.
Talk about an engine locking up.
I've seen it too firsthand.
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Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster June 01, 2017, 05:21 PM
jehzsaquote:
I've
The pressure unscrewed the filter. Little by little until it popped out.
By the time the Ferrari hit the shop, towed, it had no oil filter.
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October 26, 2017, 12:51 PM
chellim1quote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
The Lisle 57010 Import Oil Filter Swivel Wrench arrived today. I like it! Nice tool.
Thanks for all of the recommendations.
UPDATE: The Lisle 57010 Import Oil Filter Swivel Wrench is awesome!
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-rduckwor October 26, 2017, 01:13 PM
P250UA5quote:
Originally posted by CQB60:
They supposed to be hand tightened with the OF seal lubed prior to install.
Even with this method, when I would DIY my Civic, it would still take a pair of pliers to remove.
Typically a long handled channel lock would do the trick.
The Enemy's gate is down. October 26, 2017, 01:24 PM
muddle_mannAn old mechanic of mine told me about a trick for this. Drive a screw driver through the filter body and use it as leverage to turn the filter.
I had this issue with my RSX I got from CarMax. WAYYY over tightened the filter. I tried the screw driver trick but the filters they used were so cheap it just tore apart. I had it towed to carmax and left them a note to get the damn filter off since it's their fault the thing is on so tight. To their credit they did it and didn't charge me.
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October 26, 2017, 01:26 PM
BurtonRWquote:
Originally posted by muddle_mann:
An old mechanic of mine told me about a trick for this. Drive a screw driver through the filter body and use it as leverage to turn the filter.
I had this issue with my RSX I got from CarMax. WAYYY over tightened the filter. I tried the screw driver trick but the filters they used were so cheap it just tore apart. I had it towed to carmax and left them a note to get the damn filter off since it's their fault the thing is on so tight. To their credit they did it and didn't charge me.
Hey, I heard once that you could use a screwdriver through the body of the filter to loosen it, but then I heard that even though it works sometimes, it's risky because filter bodies aren't really made of tough stuff and you can just tear them up.
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A=A October 26, 2017, 01:43 PM
229DAKBack around 84-85 my neighbor came over asking if I could help him with his oil change. Got under the car and discovered he had done the screwdriver trick but all that was left was the base of the filter - all else gone, filter material and sheet metal. I got a screwdriver and hammer and proceeded to get a bite on the base and turn it by tapping it off. Took about 15 min before I could spin it off.
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October 26, 2017, 01:44 PM
46and2Stab and twist. Most any screwdriver will do.
October 26, 2017, 02:06 PM
chellim1quote:
Hey, I heard once that you could use a screwdriver through the body of the filter to loosen it, but then I heard that even though it works sometimes, it's risky because filter bodies aren't really made of tough stuff and you can just tear them up.
Just get the Lisle Swivel-Gripper!
It won't tear apart your filter.
It swivels, it grips... where no hand will reach!
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-rduckwor October 26, 2017, 02:08 PM
darthfusterquote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
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Hey, I heard once that you could use a screwdriver through the body of the filter to loosen it, but then I heard that even though it works sometimes, it's risky because filter bodies aren't really made of tough stuff and you can just tear them up.
Just get the Lisle Swivel-Gripper!
It won't tear apart your filter.
It swivels, it grips... where no hand will reach!
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