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Glock incident: beware of this issue

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May 16, 2018, 10:41 PM
TAllen01
Glock incident: beware of this issue
Local officer (Ohio) allegedly had a pin work out of the trigger safety on his Glock, causing it to catch, activate the trigger, and discharge when he holstered it. First I have heard of this possibility. Thought I would mention it here, in case you wanted to double check your trigger pins (or give your thoughts as to whether this is possible).

https://www.journal-news.com/n...GnnkXQjfJrWUTSYKt0J/
May 16, 2018, 10:49 PM
parabellum
I'm not buyin' it.
May 16, 2018, 10:52 PM
CPD SIG
Something seems fishy about this one.

Im not saying it can't happen, one in a bazillion deal.

If they are talking about the pins in the trigger, (the plastic pin that holds the trigger safety in) it doesn't look like it would stick out far enough so it would hit the side of a holster...


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May 16, 2018, 10:54 PM
parabellum
Nope
May 16, 2018, 10:56 PM
Snake207
I've had the lower pin on a M&P trigger walk out before during a class.

But like CPD SIG said - eyeballing my G19 right now - it doesn't seem like that pin is long enough to hit the holster and still articulate the trigger.


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May 16, 2018, 10:59 PM
bionic218
I've noticed a correlation.

1. There are damn few reported occasions of (brand name here) malfunctioning in the grind of day to day life.

2. There is an extremely high incidence of malfunctions in (brand name here) firearms when somebody gets shot in the ass.

Remarkable, is it not?
May 16, 2018, 11:02 PM
gw3971
It's a poor craftsman who blames his tools.
May 16, 2018, 11:48 PM
KMitch200
Not saying it can't happen but put me solidly in the "Have to see it to believe it" column.

That's some magic pin to work loose in the first place, then stick out far enough to clear the trigger guard AND push the trigger back.


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May 16, 2018, 11:54 PM
sns3guppy
Unless the pin walks out far enough to cause the trigger safety insert to fall out (unlikely), then the pin sticking out wont' discharge the pistol anyway; the trigger safety insert will prevent rear movement of the trigger. That's the point of having it.

The pin is a blind captured pin, only going in one way from the left side of the trigger; it doesn't go all the way through the trigger, and is an interference fit and is held in place firmly; the only way to remove it is to drill a hole through the trigger from the right side and drive the pin out.

If the owner-officer had done something like driven the pin clear while changing trigger shoes, it's possible, but even if the pin backs out of the hole, snagging the pin on something wont' discharge the pistol.
May 16, 2018, 11:58 PM
thumperfbc
Maybe if it was a floppy leather type holster it might be a little more believable... but I'm not buying it either.
May 17, 2018, 12:27 AM
beltfed21
My guess would be that someone had their finger in the trigger guard while they were putting the firearm back in the holster. So they had to come up with some BS as an out.

Keep your cotton pickin finger out of the cotton pickin trigger guard!


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May 17, 2018, 01:12 AM
arfmel
Yep. This has the aroma of male bovine excrement.
May 17, 2018, 01:40 AM
KevH
No way. There isn't a pin on a factory Glock trigger that could accomplish all of that.

First of all, the pin that holds the trigger to the trigger bar would still require something to depress the safety on the trigger face and the pin that holds the safety on trigger itself, even if it walked, wouldn't deactivate that safety.

Second of all, neither of the pins in the trigger are long enough to reach outside the trigger guard and hit something on the holster.

What we have here is a case of head up a__ and inability to accept responsibility for one's actions.

Cops will manage to break anything and everything (I speak from experience). Issue them a smooth rock and they'll manage to somehow make it non-functional.

If this were even possible with the factory Glock trigger system (which it is not) it would have happened well over twenty years ago and dozens of times by now.


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May 17, 2018, 06:11 AM
GCE61
He had his boogerhook on the bang switch.
Shame on the Dept for even endorsing such a BS statement.
Will be interesting to see if Glock gets wind of this claim and investigates....
May 17, 2018, 06:13 AM
FPNunes
Nope - not happening. Seems like a case of an errant booger hook and misplaced focus.


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May 17, 2018, 06:15 AM
SgtGold
Yea, about that. Um, no. Sorry, no...... Roll Eyes


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May 17, 2018, 06:35 AM
blueye
Nope to that dope.
May 17, 2018, 06:57 AM
CQB60
This has the distinct smell of fish. Glock don’t make no fish Wink


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May 17, 2018, 07:05 AM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by gw3971:
It's a poor craftsman who blames his tools.

Yep, put me in this corner of skeptics. Just like, "I was cleaning the gun, when it just accidentally went off".




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May 17, 2018, 07:09 AM
Elk Hunter
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
I'm not buyin' it.


Me, either. Just checked and do not see how it would even be possible!


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