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Let them shoot it out for all I care, let our military intel gather the goods on all of them and their equipment.
 
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As usual Erdogan is a day late and a dollar short. If he was trying to emulate his good buddy Viktor Orban's move of telling Angela Merkel "by the way, I'm bussing 10,000 refugees to the border in the morning" five years ago, all-round fail so far. The EU may have failed to find a common line since, as everybody went back to his national interests as soon as the pressure of the 2015/16 crisis faded, but lessons were learned - starting with message control (you don't announce publically how many refugees you expect this year, and what measures you are taking to handle the influx, because it will be spun as "country x is taking in y people, buy your passage now" by traffickers in social media).

Also, everybody from the Greeks to the Germans already demonstrated their compassion and humanity to the fullest last time around, at considerable cost; nobody has anything left to prove. There are still voices decrying that Europe is betraying its ideals and morals by shutting its borders, but even most on the Left are aware of the organizational, financial and political fallout of 2015 and want to avoid a repeat. At any rate people are already concerned with the COVID-19 thing, which is at the very least a good excuse to not saddle yourself with another crisis on top.

The blatantly manufactured nature and the fact that there are very few Syrians among the current crowd - since Turkey is keeping its own border with Syria firmly shut - is another point. That the Turkish interior minister claims that more than 140,000 have already crossed into the EU in an attempt to push a surge merely evokes images of the Iraqi information minister then.

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Border Tells a Different Story to Greece and Turkey’s Claims

By Cagan Koc, Constantine Courcoulas, Ugur Yilmaz, and Sotiris Nikas

2. März 2020, 00:36 MEZ Updated on 2. März 2020, 13:27 MEZ


Istanbul’s working class neighborhood of Zeytinburnu was buzzing Sunday as migrants huddled in groups debating whether to travel to the border with Greece so they could achieve their dream: to live in Europe.

Following Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s decision to open the frontier, excitement rippled through the district of about 300,000 people that’s home to young Afghans, Central Asians and Iranians, as the propaganda machines went into overdrive on both sides of the border.

Turkey said more than 100,000 people have left, but visits to both sides of the border show it’s unclear how many have crossed into Europe or got stuck in no man’s land along the frontiers with Greece and Bulgaria, and how many of them are actually from Syria. Athens said it stopped mass crossings, while the International Organization for Migration said a much smaller number than what Turkey claims has been trying to cross.

The reality on the ground does not match the rhetoric. Erdogan has played a particularly sensitive card at a time populists are beating the drum about migrants coming to Europe with diseases amid a possible pandemic of the coronavirus. European leaders including Germany, the bloc’s economic motor, are waiting to call his bluff. Meanwhile, top diplomats will meet in Brussels, though a date for that has not yet been set.

Greece has responded to the storming of the border by invoking an emergency clause of European treaties and refusing to accept asylum applications for a month. Officials have talked of an “invasion” of people waiting to board boats across the island of Lesbos. Our reporters on the Turkish coast only observed small groups of families.

“We used to get families from Syria, but now we get mainly young men,” said Georgios Arabatzakis, the village chief of Marasia, on the banks of the river that runs along the Greek-Turkish border and is called Evros in Greek and Meric in Turkish. “People here used to give refugees water and clothing, but the situation now looks like an invasion.”

Despite the rising tensions, what was clear on Sunday was that this was not yet anything on the scale of the 2015 refugee crisis when almost a million people crossed into Europe, fueling the rise of anti-immigration sentiment that changed the face of the continent’s politics.

Since Turkey suffered its biggest single-day loss of troops in decades in Syria against Russian-backed forces loyal to Bashar al-Assad in the northwestern region of Idlib, Erdogan has threatened to unleash another flood of Syrian refugees in Europe.

Whether he can is another story. Turkey is the world’s biggest host of migrants with more than 3.5 million Syrians on its soil. Erdogan has said hundreds of thousands of people are already on the move from Idlib toward Turkey and the total number could exceed 2 million. But early indications on the ground suggested Turkey is stuck with its refugee burden.

So far, there was little sign of Syrians trying to cross into Europe.

In Zeytinburnu, Emre, a 45-year-old taxi driver who normally ferries wealthy Middle Eastern tourists around Istanbul, said he had been driving mostly young Afghan men in his white Mercedes for about 150 Liras ($25) each to the city of Edirne, where they hoped to cross into Greece.

“You see all these young people,” he said, pointing to them with his chin, “they’re waiting for news from their friends. If they know others have succeeded, they’ll go. If not, they’ll keep on waiting.” He took one family of 11 to the border and then returned them to Istanbul when they realized there was no way through.

Migrants who’d listened to claims by Turkish officials that there’d be no exit checks were met with a wall of Greek police officers and soldiers waiting for them at the Evros river. There have been occasional reports of violence and people have had to contend with tear gas, which was being thrown from both sides.

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news...and-greece-say-it-is
 
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Reports: Turkish Police Use Drones to Organise Tear Gas Attacks on Greek Border Guards

https://www.breitbart.com/euro...greek-border-guards/

Turkish police used drones to organise attacks against Greek security forces tasked with protecting the nation’s borders from thousands of migrants attempting to illegally cross into the country, according to reports.

On Friday, Greek security forces were bombarded with smoke bombs and tear gas fired from the Turkish side of the border at the Kastanies checkpoint on the Evros river. It is now alleged that Turkish police used drones to co-ordinate the onslaught upon Greek security forces.

During the attack, members of the Turkish police force were seen handing out wire cutters to migrants to help them cut through the border fence separating the two countries, according to the Greek Reporter.

The escalation in violence at the border follows the decision by the Islamist president of Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, to “open the gates” to migrants attempting to enter Europe.

The move is widely seen as a retaliation for Europe insufficiently backing his invasion of northern Syria to crush Kurdish forces and prop up jihadist rebels in Idlib.

The decision by Erdogan abrogtated the 2016 agreement between Turkey and the European Union, which required Turkey halt the flow of migration into the EU in return for billions of euros in aid.

Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis said on Friday that the deal between Turkey and the EU is now “dead” as “Turkey has decided to completely violate the agreement”.

The Greek leader said that there is “a conscious attempt by Turkey to use migrants and refugees as geopolitical pawns to promote its own interests,” adding that the majority of migrants attempting to illegally cross the border are not refugees from Syria but rather people who have been safely living in Turkey for years.

Video released by the Greek government on Thursday seemingly showed “Turkish forces actively help[ing] migrants illegally cross the border” by arming them with tear gas canisters and assisting smuggler boats crossing the Aegean.

“They have systematically assisted, both at land and at sea, people in their effort to cross into Greece,” said Mitsotakis.

In response to the growing, the government of Greece is planning to establish two new migrant detention centres, one in a former military facility in northern Greece and another near Lamia in central Greece, according to the Greek newspaper Kathimerini.

The centres will hold migrants, pending deportation, who have been caught illegally entering the country since March 1st.


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