" leave the gun, take the cannoli " Clemenza

Agree that GF 1 & 2 are two of the best American films ever.

HK Ag

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:

Gone With the Wind??

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Birth of a Nation essentially invented the modern film, being the first to use intercutting editing, multiple angles, tracking and panning shots, close ups, transitions, dramatic narrative storytelling, location shooting, etc.

Back to The Godfather, it is remarkably still a valid, completely timeless film, unlike many films from that era. It has not dated itself one bit.

I saw 1 and 2 in the movies, not sure if I saw 3.

Don't recall.

I don't hate 3 as much as most do. It is not nearly as well made or done as the first two, no argument there, and there is some bad acting.

However, you can live without having seen it. The first two though are must watch. I still enjoyed it though, it wraps things up a bit.

There is so much subtle goodness in the first two, Pacino is the master of it in these movies. Little facial expressions, etc. Its like he isn't acting, he IS Michael. The whole transformation of his character is awesome.

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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
I don't hate 3 as much as most do. It is not nearly as well made or done as the first two, no argument there, and there is some bad acting.

For me, the greatest sin of G3 is casting. Just horrible. George Hamilton, Sophia Coppola, Eli Wallach, the SNL guy, and others were extremely poor choices. But IMO, the worst was Andy Garcia, who was just awful. Completely miscast, plus he is not that great of an actor.

Add poor writing to the mix, and one can see that Francis was just doing it for the quick much needed buck. A wasted opportunity.

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Originally posted by oddball:

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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
I don't hate 3 as much as most do. It is not nearly as well made or done as the first two, no argument there, and there is some bad acting.

For me, the greatest sin of G3 is casting. Just horrible. George Hamilton, Sophia Coppola, Eli Wallach, the SNL guy, and others were extremely poor choices. But IMO, the worst was Andy Garcia, who was just awful. Completely miscast, plus he is not that great of an actor.

Add poor writing to the mix, and one can see that Francis was just doing it for the quick much needed buck. A wasted opportunity.

I thought Winona Ryder was supposed to play Mary, but had a conflict. That would have been interesting. Sophia is definitely the weak link in "3".

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Originally posted by HK Ag:
" leave the gun, take the cannoli " Clemenza
HK Ag

Maybe the second-most-famous line from The Godfather-- was improvised. Coppola gave the actors a lot of leeway to improvise.

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Lord Vaalic: "Its like he isn't acting, he IS Michael."

That's the idea of "method acting." Lee Strasburg, "Hyman Roth," was one of the great proponents, and ran a famous acting school in NYC. A few years before "The Godfather," Strasburg had turned down a young applicant who auditioned for acceptance to his school-- Al Pacino. Strasburg was a teacher, a coach, and I think that "Hyman Roth" was the only role he actually played.

Filming was held up about half-way through Godfather 2 because Pacino needed to be hospitalized for "exhaustion." If he wasn't literally "Michael," he was so close that the experience drained him emotionally and mentally.

You think this is like the army where you shoot em a mile away? No, you get up close and Bada Bing! You blow their brains all over your nice ivy league suit.

"The Godfather" is on AMC tonight at 8:00 EST

Unfortunately, AMC will chop it up with commercials.

Just thought I'd needlessly mention the beautiful musical scores to these movies. "The Immigrant" theme from G2 is especially moving.

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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:

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Originally posted by tatortodd:
I have never seen a Godfather movie start to finish. Just caught bits and pieces on edited for TV versions, and YouTube. Just checked and neither Amazon Prime nor Netflix have them.

If the offer is still good, I'll take LV up on his offer.

They are yours... send me your address and we will fix your Godfather ignorance!! Forget the TV versions the real thing is on the way.

I actually don't hate part 3 as much as most do.

LV,
Thank you for mailing me the Godfather series. I found the cinemetography, acting, and musical score to be first rate. I liked the first two a lot, but the third installment needed a better plot.

The final verdict on the trilogy is that Star Wars IV, V, and VI (aka A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi) remain my favorite trilogy. I like science fiction better than mob movies.

Thanks again.
~Todd

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Originally posted by motor59:
Tatortodd-
I guess I'm next in line behind you. Have to admit that I've never watched any of the trilogy from start to finish; just bits and pieces here and there.

You have e-mail.

Reply sent.

I have not seen the movies.

I have played the video games though.

So in a way I have seen the movies by proxy?

Since I linked to the Sollozzo/McCluskey assassination scene on the first page of this thread, I've been dreaming of having dinner at Louis Italian-American Restaurant. A small salad, some nice Chianti, and some veal (the best in the city) with a little pasta. There's some good Italian places nearby, but it's a shame not to be able to go to Louis'.

I'd prefer to be there when Michael Corleone was away.

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Originally posted by guardianangel762:
I have not seen the movies.

I have played the video games though.

So in a way I have seen the movies by proxy?

No

Does anyone know where these are? I'm still hoping to watch them (I posted on page 1). Thanks!

"Leave the gun – take the cannoli."

An all time classic scene and line in a trilogy of films full of classics.

These movies are some of the most entertaining stories put to film.

At Louis Restaurant, the fried calamari is a real killer.

I watch 1 and 2 once or twice a year.

I have not seen 3.