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For you northerners…
Would a 2020 vehicle from NJ be a big rust concern after three years? (Been through three winters in NJ) Looking at a used Jeep Cherokee auction car at large used car dealer in my area… Low milage, 1 owner, clean Car Fax and regular service. Commercial owned, NOT a rental. I haven’t seen it yet, still in route.

Thanks.

UPDATE:
The TrackHawk we went to see had errors in the listing, it had no navigation and no tow package so we passed on it.

BUT... We found and bought a local 2018 Grand Cherokee Overland 4x4 with the 3.0 V6 turbo Diesel. One owner, a Mom, who worked in the office at the dealership had traded it in for one with a 3rd row seat (she has another kid in process Big Grin) 24K miles! Good service records only routine maintenance. The car looks like it just rolled off the show room floor.

A little concerned with the Diesel. Same engine as was an option in the Dodge Ram 1500.
According to my research there were some issues with it back in the 2014-2015 years but that was apparently fixed for the later ones. More HP and torque then the V-6 3.6 gasser and a couple MPG better as well.

Will be ready for delivery Monday.

Thanks to all who contributed to the post....

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It depends on how they treat their roads for winter. Connecticut DOT started using a liquid slurry as opposed to the salt/sand mixture they used to use a few years ago. A friend who is DOT said the corrosive nature of the slurry is playing hell on even new plow trucks they are running and there have been talks about going back to the sand/salt mix fearing the life expectancy of their trucks has been significantly diminished. I don’t know what NJ does but it might be worth asking


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It depends on how they treat their roads for winter. Connecticut DOT started using a liquid slurry as opposed to the salt/sand mixture they used to use a few years ago. A friend who is DOT said the corrosive nature of the slurry is playing hell on even new plow trucks they are running and there have been talks about going back to the sand/salt mix fearing the life expectancy of their trucks has been significantly diminished. I don’t know what NJ does but it might be worth asking


NJ uses a brine solution as well as salt, brine goes down before the storm and then they put down salt. I live in PA but wouldn't be concerned about buying a used car that spent time in NJ. NJ does have a coast but once you get away from coastal areas any concerns about rust is minimized. With that said I wouldn't buy any vehicle unless I could give it a close inspection.
 
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I think you need to be way more concerned if that is a flood car than any sort of road salt rust issue. With the sheer number of floods this country had had in the past number of years and lots of cars underwater in them, I'd really do my homework to make sure it's not one of them.


 
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^^^^ This would be my caution as well. Not likely but...
Many coastal towns have experienced extra high tides and see salt water flooding. Check for rusted seat bolts, under the carpeting, and fogged or water-stained headlamps. good luck


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While we do brine the roads here, the past 3 winters have been very mild with snow and freezing temps. The result of which seemed to be less brining.

Give it a thorough inspection and good luck!


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Sure will inspect it very well when it arrives... if it isn't already sold.

We love our Jeeps around here and this used car dealer sold 5 Cherokees just in the last week... faster then they can find them.

As a side:

My wife needs a daily and my top three to look for are Cherokee, '17-'18 Rav4 or a Wrangler. She really really liked the Wrangler and she tried getting in two different ones, one with, and one without the side step and it was a little harder for her to get in and out of than the Cherokee or Rev-4, I'm afraid she was letting her like of the Wrangler overshadow the slightly more difficult to get in and out Wrangler. (we are jeep fans anyway). Only looking for a V6... NO 4 cyls, and only fairly light colors so that complicates things a bit.

A big part of the decision will be made because my wife has some permanent issues with a knee she busted a few years ago and she needs one she can easily get in and out of. She has tried those three models and found them OK, the Cherokee being the easiest for her.

I could kick myself, I just missed a nice low milage Cherokee Trail Hawk Himi a couple weeks ago because it was poring rain when I was over there and I didn't stop, it was sold the next day.



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While we do brine the roads here, the past 3 winters have been very mild with snow and freezing temps.


I'm not trying to scare him off, but what I saw locally, especially at work, that almost sort of made it worse. They ended up putting down much more salt than usual to use it up, especially pre-storm a few times. Then it didn't really snow and didn't get washed/plowed away. 2021 was the worst year for my Nissan since I've had it, and I think that's what it was from. I can remember pulling onto the property at work one "storm" that never materialized, and the roads were white. All salt.

I chuckle when people over worry about salt state cars. If we didn't buy them, we'd never own a car, that's where we are and that's all there is. Smile
 
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They ended up putting down much more salt than usual to use it up, especially pre-storm a few times. Then it didn't really snow and didn't get washed/plowed away.

I’ve seen that a time or two. I’d rather they not salt at all.
A couple of days of snow and then the roads are full of potholes and torn up all year.



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Case by case basis I’d say. Start looking closely at similar models for rust prone spots.


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I looked a few years ago, pickup truck. In MO two trucks looked kinda bad, frame rust. I asked the dealer, they came from a NY auto auction.

We ended up with a used tundra from N IL, in MUCH better condition. Yes it depends.

About 3 months ago my Son bought a 2005 Honda CRV from Alabama. Yes, there are the acquisition costs, but the frame on that vehicle is almost as good as new.

I’m in the it all depends camp.
 
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^^^A Honda CRV has a Frame?


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^^^A Honda CRV has a Frame?


It has a monocoque body with a welded on frame rails like many crossover SUVs. And other cars.
Classic Mopars are built this way too.





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I wouldn't buy anything from new jersey. except for some snap-on sockets I bought off ebay that shipped from nj. based on the price I assumed the seller had some special retailing skills other snap-on dealers don't typically possess.

Seriously though, I've never lived in a salt state, but some of the vehicles I've seen that spent time in those areas are not anything I'd be interested in, but I work on my own cars and keep them forever. After a certain amount of salt exposure things can get dicey after a while. I would also say it depends on the vehicle, as some auto manufacturers are better with undercarriage design and passivation of metals. My father has a car like that. He bought the stuff for a DIY undercoating and sent me under there, but there was nothing to do, it was immaculate the way the manufacturer had designed and treated the surfaces, really amazing.




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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Curious what car your father had that you describe.



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It can't be any worse than Massachusetts. I grew up in a coastal town here about 900' from the water and you would have rust issues after a while, but the only major issues we ever had was body related. And I don't think we ever had any issues after only 3 years.

Especially if it was inland New Jersey you should be fine but obviously still do your inspection.




 
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Being a Vermonter, we tend to look to NJ for rust free cars! Isn’t NJ next to Georgia? Big Grin

One suggestion , make sure you car fax or use some other history check. With auction cars, they can come from anywhere. A year ago I bought a F250 in Jersey, and it originally came from Connecticut.


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I live in NH, and we definitely get winter here! This is a pic of the underbody of my '09 Volvo S60 when I was installing a new oval tube stainless exhaust:



That pic was taken two years ago at 220K miles. It doesn't really look much different today, a little over two years later. Some steel brackets under the car seem to have a bit more rust, but that's it. I have a '13 Volvo XC70 w/ 207K miles that doesn't look near a good underneath, but I seen MUCH newer pickup trucks around here with all sorts of visible rust! Ultimately, it really depends on the car. Volvo's, being from Sweden, are built to handle the winter...Most American cars, not so much! YMMV Wink


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Used cars from the South have been in greater demand because of the salt issue. You can keekp up with it by washing in a warm location on a weekly basis. Cars that have been flooded are supposed to have a salvage title. The flooded cars generally are shipped to South America.
 
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I would be more concerned with the fact that it’s a KL Cherokee than with the salt. I’ve had $50-60K worth of repairs (all under warranty, of course) done on my ‘15 Trailhawk.

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