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Whether it’s the IRS or hospitals or credit-card companies or mortgage lenders, there are ways to get better terms—and maybe even reduce the amount owed t would be hard to overestimate the impact of a crushing burden of debt. It can be a hole that gets deeper even after you spend years trying to fill it in. It can be a mountain that makes it hard to see past. And it can even stop the passage of time: Unable to catch up on their bills, some people delay marriage or childbearing, decline or delay medical treatment, or stay living in the homes of parents or friends. For many people, though, the insurmountable debt may not be as insurmountable as it seems. Most creditors—from the mortgage company to the hospital to the IRS—are willing to discuss reductions in the debt load, or at least in the terms of repayment. The key for debtors isn’t to be so paralyzed that you fail to even try. Defaulting on debt can destroy a person’s credit score, or worse, lead to legal action and the seizure of property. Here are some of the ways debtors can negotiate with creditors, depending on the kind of debt they have. Will they always work? Definitely not. But most professionals say that the biggest impediment to many of these tactics may not be creditor resistance. It may be debtor inertia. Federal-tax debt As anyone who owes federal income taxes knows, the IRS never mails you a letter just to say “hi.” . A pre-markets primer packed with news, trends and ideas. Plus, up-to-the-minute market data. “There is a real temptation not to open the bill,” says IRS spokesman Eric Smith. “But there is one thing about tax bills: They don’t get better with age.” Delinquent taxpayers—roughly 10.3 million individuals in 2021—face steep consequences. For example, someone who didn’t file a 2021 return (or request an extension) is typically penalized 5% of the unpaid taxes every month until reaching a 25% cap. Interest is also charged and compounded daily, with rates currently at 7%. (That percentage might go even higher if the Federal Reserve raises interest rates again.) There also is a late-payment penalty of 0.5% of the unpaid taxes, an amount that accrues monthly. What does that add up to? A lot. Say you file your 2021 return on March 1, 2023, with a tax balance due of $10,000. You’ll owe additional late-filing and late-payment penalties totaling around $2,500 or more. You’ll also owe interest. If you pay the tax bill when you file, the penalty and interest charges will stop accruing at that point. The IRS will then bill you for the penalties and interest. (If you then timely pay that bill, you won’t owe any additional penalties and interest.) Worst-case scenario, the IRS can legally garnishee the taxpayer’s wages, take money deposited in financial accounts, and seize and sell personal property, such as vehicles and real estate. Delinquent taxpayers should act long before the situation becomes dire, Mr. Smith says. The most common approach is to contact the IRS and set up a payment plan that whittles down the balance over time. For instance, “if you owe $50,000 and can pay that off in six years or less, usually we’re going to approve that agreement,” Mr. Smith says. If paying back taxes isn’t possible using an installment agreement, because you simply don’t have the income and resources, taxpayers can apply for an “offer in compromise,” which reduces the overall tax liability. The IRS received over 49,000 offers in compromise in 2021, of which it accepted about 15,000. Mr. Smith cautions taxpayers to avoid “offer mills” and other scammers who advertise that they can settle tax debt for pennies on the dollar. “Chances are, they’re not going to deliver what they’re promising,” he says. Taxpayers facing financial hardship, such as job loss or significant medical expenses, can ask the IRS to report their accounts as currently not collectible. That status means the IRS will temporarily suspend certain collection actions, such as seizing property. But being “not collectible” doesn’t erase the debt, which continues to accrue penalties and interest. The collections process and penalties vary depending on the circumstances. For example, some exceptions are made when the taxpayer lives in a federally declared disaster area or is a member of the military serving in a combat zone. The percentage of total consumer-debt balance by delinquency status 30 days late % 4.0 60 days late 90 days late 3.5 120+ days late 3.0 Severely derogatory 2.5 2.0 1.5 1.0 0.5 0 2003 ’05 ’10 ’15 ’20 Federal Reserve Bank of New York Quarterly Report on Household Debt and Credit, February 2023 Credit-card debt Facing higher prices for goods and services, more consumers may be using their credit cards to cover day-to-day costs. In the fourth quarter of 2022, credit-card debt jumped to $986 billion, surpassing the prepandemic high of $927 billion, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. And while delinquencies—balances 30 days or more past due—remain historically low, they also are increasing, the Fed report found. Consumers get in trouble when their purchases and interest charges snowball to the point where they can’t make the minimum payments. “More times than not, it’s a crisis when consumers come and see us,” says Barry S. Coleman, vice president of program management and education at the National Foundation for Credit Counseling. The foundation is a network of nonprofit member agencies that helps consumers develop a plan to both reduce their living expenses and pay outstanding debts, says Mr. Coleman. Counselors work directly with the credit-card companies to make the clients’ monthly payments more affordable, he says. If the companies agree to a debt-management plan, the consumer makes monthly payments to the agency, which disperses the money to the creditors. The foundation charges a small monthly administrative fee, which can be waived if the client is unable to pay. Nonprofit counseling agencies are particularly useful when the debtor needs one payment plan that works across multiple creditors. Still, borrowers can also call their credit-card companies directly to request a payment plan that could include things like reducing their interest rate, lowering the minimum payment, waiving late fees and/or even settling for a lower amount. Consumers should be prepared to provide documentation of extenuating circumstances that led to the debt, and be sure to get a payment plan in writing. Credit-card issuers differ in their terms when agreeing to payment plans. “Some will reduce the interest rates down to single digits. Others may only go down a couple of percentage points,” Mr. Coleman says. In a few cases, consumers can ask the credit-card company to forgive a certain percentage of the debt or settle the debt for a certain percentage, Mr. Coleman says. In those situations, there must be severe delinquency of many months. Still, “it’s the exception rather than the norm,” he says. Mr. Coleman discourages clients from transferring their outstanding balances to a single, low-rate credit card unless they can pay it off during the card’s introductory term. Significantly delinquent consumers probably won’t qualify for the card in the first place, and those who do typically see interest rates skyrocket on balances that remain after the initial term expires. Mr. Coleman also warns against using payday loans. “Oftentimes, the interest rates are extremely high and require payments every couple of weeks,” he says. In the end, “they can make a consumer’s situation far worse than what it was.” Mortgage debt In the fourth quarter last year, 0.57% of all mortgages were seriously delinquent, according to the New York Federal Reserve Board. But rising interest rates—and higher house payments—may see delinquency levels rise in the coming years, says Guy Cecala, executive chairman of Inside Mortgage Finance, a publisher of news about residential mortgages. Homeowners who are significantly behind in their house payments should immediately contact their loan servicer, the company that handles the administrative side of loan payments. (Check your monthly statement for the name of your servicer.) Describe your situation and—most important—say how you plan to repay what is owed. “I’m aware that most people view the mortgage servicer as a faceless machine. That is generally not the case,” Mr. Cecala says. “What they really want to know is if there’s a solution.” Someone whose home was damaged in a hurricane may be waiting for an insurance payment. A homeowner who recently became unemployed should outline efforts to rejoin the workforce. Missing mortgage payments will likely lower your credit score, so ask the loan servicer about forbearance, which will pause or reduce your mortgage payments. At the end of the term, the homeowner can repay the past-due amount, which now includes the interest accrued during the forbearance period. Another option is to request a payment plan in which you make your regular monthly house payment along with a portion of the overdue balance. Separately, some mortgage servicers will allow a payment deferment, in which the past-due balance is tacked to the end of the home loan. If mortgage debt continues to amass, the loan servicer may push the homeowner to sell the property. All of these approaches aim to avert foreclosure and the seizure and sale of your house. Last year, 324,237 properties in the U.S. faced foreclosure filings, up 115% from 2021 but down 34% from 2019, before the pandemic shook up the market, according to Attom, a real-estate data company. Lenders repossessed 42,854 properties through foreclosures in 2022, up 67% from 2021 but down 70% from 2019. Mortgage-relief scammers abound, so be wary of companies that promise to negotiate with lenders on your behalf. The biggest impediment to negotiating debt may not be creditor resistance. It may be debtor inertia. ILLUSTRATION: MARTIN TOGNOLA Student-loan debt Student-loan recipients are currently stuck in legal limbo, waiting for the Supreme Court to rule on the legality of President Biden’s plan to forgive up to $10,000 per person in federal loans and up to $20,000 in federal loans to borrowers who also received Pell Grants. Meanwhile, the pandemic-era payment pause was extended to June 30 or until the legal challenges are resolved—whichever comes first. (If the litigation hasn’t been resolved by June 30, payments will resume 60 days after that.) For now, borrowers can assess whether their monthly payments are still manageable once the pause ends. If not, contact your loan servicer and inquire about deferment and/or forbearance options, as well as other repayment plans. “I would recommend exploring income-driven repayment plans,” says Karen McCarthy, vice president of public policy and federal relations at the National Association of Student Financial Aid Administrators. Since monthly payments are generally based on the borrower’s discretionary income and family size, “the repayment amounts can be as low as $0, but still be considered in [satisfactory] repayment status,” she says. Another option is to apply for a federal consolidation loan that combines multiple student loans into a single loan, possibly with a lower total monthly payment. However, these loans typically lengthen the repayment timeline, so the borrower likely faces more principal and interest payments. Consolidation loans are also available from private lenders, but many lack the income-driven repayment options and eligibility for public-service loan forgiveness. Nurses, teachers, public-service employees, military personnel and others may be eligible for public-service loan forgiveness. Disability and other hardships will also be considered for forgiveness. Continuing to miss payments will likely lead to default, at which time the entire balance of the loan, with interest, becomes due. Defaulting also erases eligibility for loan deferment, forbearance and forgiveness, as well as access to federal student loans in the future. The borrower’s credit rating is dinged, and the government can withhold tax refunds and garnishee wages. Don’t let it come to that, Ms. McCarthy says. “It’s possible to get a lower monthly payment amount that will keep you in satisfactory repayment status, which is the No. 1 goal here.” Medical debt Almost a quarter of adults in the U.S. say they currently have medical or dental bills that are past due or that they are unable to pay, according to survey results released last year by the nonpartisan nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation. “It’s really expensive to age—and to get sick—in America,” says Caitlin Donovan, senior director of the Patient Advocate Foundation. The nonprofit helps individuals with serious medical conditions resolve financial issues related to their healthcare, and even helps them apply for financial aid and copayment relief. “A few years ago, a patient’s bill was $30,000, and we got that down to $0 by working with hospital and insurer,” Ms. Donovan says. Nonprofit credit-counseling agencies can also help negotiate with healthcare providers and insurers on your behalf. Patients who are unable to pay have certain rights and protections from debt collections. The first step is to call the hospital or treatment center’s billing office to ask about financial assistance, cost reductions and/or payment plans that might be available. “I’ve spoken to people who are in collections with the hospital and they would have qualified for financial assistance,” Ms. Donovan says. When making your case, be prepared to provide documentation, such as proof of income, insurance, disability and even your proximity to the facility if travel expenses are significant. If financial assistance isn’t available or the patient isn’t eligible, healthcare administrators are sometimes willing to negotiate a lower balance and/or work out a payment plan. Additionally, patients can contact their health-insurance provider and appeal the amounts that aren’t covered by their plan. Separately, patients can apply for grants through the Patient Advocate Foundation. Funding comes mainly from private donations and health-related nonprofits devoted to specific ailments. For example, the Begin Again Foundation funds grants for patients diagnosed with sepsis, acute respiratory distress syndrome or toxic shock syndrome. Some healthcare providers offer medical credit cards to their clients. These typically come with no- or low-interest introductory rates that reset down the road—sometimes at a higher rate than that of a regular credit card. “Better options are finding funds elsewhere and working with hospital directly,” Ms. Donovan says. Ms. DeCarbo is a writer in South Carolina. You can reach her at reports@wsj.com. LINK: https://www.wsj.com/articles/n...feature_below_a_pos1 | ||
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Most of those lower your debt and credit repair ad's are basically scams. They already know most (yes, I know not all) of those people aren't very good with their money. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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Or just don't borrow money, and if you must not more that you can quickly pay back. No car is as much fun to drive, as any motorcycle is to ride. | |||
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We've had success in negotiating hospital bills down, they've regularly knocked 15-20% off for a 'pay in full today'. On the debt repair, I worked with a lady that went through it & got it paid off for a large percent off the total. Then got a 1099 as the negotiated reduction was reported as income. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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What are the fees for these exercises? I've never really paid any attention to the whole segment, but saw a commercial a couple times this weekend with a footnote of average reduction per client being 48% before fees, 25% after fees. That implies a fee of right at 50% on a reduction. That's worse than lawsuit shares, and where the heck do people come up with that money? More debt, but now to the reduction firm instead of original creditors? And yes, they are all going to be super surprised when they get a 1099 for any debt forgiveness. Uncle same not very patient either. You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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I'd say most things are negotiable. I just finished a chat with Xfinity and lowered my internet bill $17/month for 12 months. Had to enroll in autopay for $10/month savings, but oh well. $17 is $17...half a tank of gas for my rock-n-rolla Corolla!! "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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"Most of those lower your debt and credit repair ad's are basically scams."
This happens to many people. If they filed bankruptcy instead they would not owe taxes nor would the 1099 be issued.. Also if an individual can prove negative net worth to IRS when filing, the taxes are eliminated. I have been helping a client that negotiated a settlement in 2011 but Discover sent a 1099 stating the settlement occured in 2016 when they wrote off the debt. Also some attorneys will talk clients into Chapter 13 instead of Chapter 7 because their fees are not as limited by the court. A forum attorney can explain bankrupcy fees better than I. __________________________________________________ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit! Sigs Owned - A Bunch | |||
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The IRS is not a creditor. If you owe them money, it's not because they gave you a loan. And if you didn't file for a year or more when you absolutely knew you had to file, well, you can guess how much sympathy I have. As much as I hate our tax code, the IRS is pretty reasonable when it comes to extensions and repayment plans IF you are proactive about it. Blow off filing for a few years, then ignore their mail and, well, you're begging for some financial pain. | |||
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Unless, of course, you are someone like Al Sharpton, or another well known 'tax delinquent', then you don't get any penalties at all. | |||
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Some years ago I took a relative to a lawyer and she went through bankruptcy; but that left tax bills unpaid and neglected. I ended up calling Optima Tax Relief and here’s what happened: An attorney answered the call. After I explained the situation, he said: “You don’t owe the IRS anything. The tax debt is from years that are outside the statute of limitations. Don’t do anything, but if you have a tax lien write to IRS and get it off the record as it is invalid.” For that: no charge. I was astonished. _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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I knew a few like that. “ hey, Jonny has a new truck! Ya, he’s filed bankruptcy seven times!” I’ve always felt welfare, disability, and bankruptcy were meant to help people at a low in their life. Give them a hand and tell them to move on! Obviously there are a few that need permanent help, but a small percentage of the blood sucking leaches that attached themselves to our system. P226 9mm CT Springfield custom 1911 hardball Glock 21 Les Baer Special Tactical AR-15 | |||
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If you see me running try to keep up |
Yep, I just pay what I owe and I don’t charge what I can’t pay. | |||
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Obviously that's the ideal Plan A. But not always an option, like with unexpected medical issues. | |||
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At 39 y.o., a neighbor is getting her 1st checking account. Ans and credit card. So she can charge a $6,400.00 vacation. I advised against it , based on her income. That vacation is gong to be $8,400.00 By the time she pays it off. Education is very expensive for some people. Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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Anyone who's getting their first checking acct and credit card at 39 is already financially doomed. They are poor and will always be poor. I would say they likely have no debt, since they haven't had a credit card before. But they certainly have/had high interest car loans, probably something like CarShield, and probably pay a rent-a-center-like place. | |||
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A friend with a civil engineering background is getting divorced. His wife handled all finances and he's never had a bank account or credit card. It seems more common than one would think. | |||
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I can believe that'd be more common than one might think. Similar to the guys who let their wives do all the grocery shopping, laundry, cooking, and cleaning, and then when they get divorced or become a widower later in life they're left totally clueless with regards to basic life skills. | |||
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Now, that sucks. Person has to pay taxes on the money they never had to pay the bill in the first place. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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^^^^^ What RogueJSK said ^^^^^^ . | |||
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I’ve had about 50/50 luck with this. Some places I call to make a payment and they say we’ll knock off 20% if paid in full today with out me asking and some with me asking. Then some said sorry no discount. It was an $8k out of pocket surgery for one of the boys so I said ok payment plan please what is the least I can pay a month? They said $25, I said sounds good. Paid for 2 years without missing a payment. Called to make a payment by name and they said I had a zero balance. Yeah, you’ll need to check that again so she asked for the Patient ID. I gave her the patient ID and she said that explains it, we have a new billing system and we just wrote off all the outstanding balances from the old system. So, I quickly said can I please get that in writing? Probably should frame that letter but it is in the safe with all my student loan payoff letters. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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