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Suggestions for best product. Expect to hear from Frank in Saint Louis. | ||
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It depends on price range, and price range should depend on the value of its contents. Doesn't make sense to put a $200 gun in a $4000 safe, but it also doesn't make sense to put $100,000 worth of guns into a $149 tin can. For most of us, the AMSEC BF series is the best balance between quality and price. A few of us, need to step up to TL-15, TL-30, and TL-30x6 due to the value of contents and LEO response time. Graffunder and AMSEC's RF line come to mind for this level of gun safe. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Sturdy gun safes are nice and built in the U.S. You can order one custom built with the features and steel thicknesses you desire. https://www.sturdysafe.com/# _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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I personally use snapsafe: https://www.snapsafe.com/ They're phenomenal if you rent and cant commit to bolting them down. This is where my signature goes. | |||
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Sturdy makes a damn good safe. Can't go wrong with one as far as I'm concerned. American made, supported locking lugs and no middle-man markup. ... | |||
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A little bit of a thread drift - a close friend passed away suddenly the other day. His wife does not have the combinations to either gun safe. This could be a problem. | |||
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If they are built like most gun safes and the top, back or one of the sides is exposed, then 5 minutes with an angle grinder and a few cutoff wheels will solve that problem. | |||
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How about a way that doesn't ruin the safe? | |||
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That's when you call people like Mr. Zykan who can call the manufacturer to get the locations to drill a few holes. | |||
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Call a locksmith. A good one with safe cracking experience, not the dude with the cheap key cutter and car lockout kit in the back of his Prius. -Rob I predict that there will be many suggestions and statements about the law made here, and some of them will be spectacularly wrong. - jhe888 A=A | |||
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I'll second the recommendation on Sturdy safe, I ordered one a few years back and it has been great. David W. Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud. -Sophocles | |||
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So far everybody has mentioned viable products, but it all comes down to what tatortodd said. It depends on what you're trying to accomplish. More steel, especially for the same price, is better. But although 1/4" is better than 1/8", it's only really going to slow somebody down using basic tools. Against power tools there will be little difference in the time it takes to get in. Some people need fire protection, and others don't need it at all. If you don't need it, go with as much steel as you can get. If you do need it, a true composite safe offers better security than steel alone along with the fire protection. And beware the false and misleading claims prevalent among gun safe manufacturers. Many play a bit fast and loose in this department. There are also plenty of videos that are engineered to back up these claims, which although they look good, don't necessarily mean anything in a real world scenario.
If she needs a referral to a competent tech in the area let me know and I'll point you in the right direction. It could be as simple as a phone call for a factory set combination, or as complex as needing to drill the safe open. Unless the safe is junk, there's rarely a need to cause any significant damage beyond a small hole that is easily repaired. | |||
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Zanotti Armor. I have one. Assembled, it can't be moved out of the room it's in. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt" "The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind." -Bomber Harris | |||
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a1abdj is the man and will tell you the no BS truth. With his help in planning, earlier this year I undertook a multi year project to solve my gun and other valuables storage problems once and for all. I have the space with my new house to build a walk-in safe room in my basement, but was looking at the best way to design said room, what kind of vault door, etc. Frank helped me with the design of the room and I contracted out the concrete work earlier this year and I hope to be able to purchase a TL-30 door from Frank next year to mostly complete the project. With his help and input I will have a customized valuable protection solution that will work for my firearms, ammunition, watch collection and other valuables. It will have cost me significantly less and offer considerably more protection than anything commercially available “off the shelf” so to speak, and will make a heck of a man cave too. I highly recommend anyone wanting to buy a gun safe chat with Frank first and help come up with the bets solution for your needs AND give him the chance at your business. “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” | |||
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I will also give a thumbs up to Frank Zykan. I contacted him recently and he led me to the perfect safe delivered to my house for a reasonable price. Franks knows his stuff. As safes go, you get what you pay for. I wanted a safe that would be fireproof but also provide good protection from a burglar. I got a TL-15 rated safe from Frank and it also has a 2 hour fire rating. I'm good to go now. | |||
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Just got mine too - a Z2 6-foot. Here's a good site for discussion in your decision: https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/buyers-guide/ "No matter where you go - there you are" | |||
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I've had a Sun Welding Mustang M-34 with a lot of upgrades for over 2 decades now. Bought it at Jack First back then. https://www.sunweldingsafes.co...0Hx30Wx24D_p_20.html Certifiable member of the gun toting, septuagenarian, bucket list workin', crazed retiree, bald is beautiful club! USN (RET), COTEP #192 | |||
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Check out Rhino Ironworks. https://rhinosafe.com/all-prod...6EAAYASAAEgIfufD_BwE Also, a layered system is best-alarm system, cameras, and safe. Mine are all seperate with ADT, Arlo, and a big Browning safe NRA Life Member "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." Teddy Roosevelt | |||
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I like my Cannon gunsafe . Awesome warranty . During the flood in 2016 , my safe went under 4 feet of water ( empty ) . Their warranty covered this . They asked for a couple of pictures and they shipped me a brand new larger safe at zero cost to me . | |||
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Yep. Widow wants to save the safe. It is a high end Browning safe. One of the neighbors suggested calling the manufacturer.
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