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Guns that looked cool but that was it
February 25, 2019, 01:38 PM
benny6Guns that looked cool but that was it
What are your list of guns that looked cool that you really wanted, own or owned only to find out that looking cool was about all it had going for it.
It's the gun you wanted to like and you wanted to shoot well but it either was a jam-o-matic, too heavy, terribly inaccurate, broke all the time or could be counted on to fail more than function.
I remember I was dead set on getting a SPAS-12 a long time ago until I did the research and found out that it was bulky, prone to breakage and parts are unobtanium now. My most vivid memories of that shotgun were with Rutger Hauer in the movie The Hitcher and of course the original Jurassic Park.
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February 25, 2019, 01:45 PM
ubelongoutsideNorth American Arms .22 revolvers.
The first time I saw it I knew I had to own one and eventually did until I traded it recently for a .22 mag bolt action Savage.
I'll give it credit in that it was solidly built, but it was just way too small for my hands, I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it. I also didn't like having to put my hands so close to the muzzle to slide the pin in to the cylinder, and how it wasn't "safe" unless the hammer rested between chambers.
It was neat to have for a while, but when it started staying in the safe more than coming with me to the range I decided it was time to go.
February 25, 2019, 01:48 PM
12131The FN FS2000 and the Steyr AUG. Owned both. Cool looking, but that's about it. Uncomfortable.
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February 25, 2019, 01:51 PM
myrottietyquote:
SPAS-12
Before I even clicked I was going to mention this one.
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Remember - Training is not sparring. Sparring is not fighting. Fighting is not combat. February 25, 2019, 01:55 PM
tacfoleyThe Dardick.
The Gyrojet.
To name just two....
February 25, 2019, 01:55 PM
FN in MTMy disappointment gun was a Shiloh Sharps that I ordered back in the late 1990's. Went to Shiloh's plant in Big Timber, MT. Ordered my gun and paid the full price ahead of time. Two other friends ordered theirs at the same time.
In the mean time the company changed hands and a year later I get a call to pick up or for $50 they would send it.
Drove down and was given an additional bill for $100+ above and beyond what I already paid, which I thought was the FULL price. They stated the price I was quoted was the manufacturers price, BEFORE adding the excise tax added to all guns! We went round and around a bit, I finally got my gun.
It was beautiful but the front sight was so high it didn't shoot to point of aim at all. So I started filing the sight down. In order to zero I filed the front blade until it was starting to get too small. So had the rear modified by a gunsmith to allow me to zero yet still have enough front blade to still SEE.
The gun was never accurate with any smokeless powder. I wasted many months and at minimum $400 on various molds, lubes, pure lead, commercial cast and paper patched slugs, powders, etc. Best I could get was 3" at 50 yds.
So changed out the open sights for uber expensive aftermarkets. A globe front with various inserts and an adjustable tang for the rear. Another $300+ as I recall.
My groups shrank with better sights but I doubt that gun ever did 3" at 100 yds. My 100 yds groups were all 4-6 inches.
The gun was beautiful, great fit and finish but it simply didn't shoot as well as I thought it should.
Gave it to a friend with BP experience he came to the same conclusion after spending a few weeks with it.
Eventually sold it at a loss of several hundred dollars. That Shiloh Sharps was MY most disappointing gun in 45+ years of gun nut time.
February 25, 2019, 01:58 PM
FlyingScotMac-10. Have had a chance to shoot one that is owned by a collector buddy. You run it absolutely dripping with oil to keep as reliable as possible - his had the silencer with wrap so you could hold on it. Looked cool, as an 80s kid I still consider cool but after shooting and seeing how to unjam...not something I'd own.
Kriss Vector 45. Just odd, did not notice any less recoil, was heavier than it needed to be.
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GaryBFAmong my regrettable purchases are the Bond Arms derringer, Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless, and the Uberti Schofield replica.
The Bond Arms has a quirky trigger and the bores are not regulated to POI at any particular distance so you get to two distinct groups. Nicely made, however.
The iconic Colt was difficult to shoot because of ergonomics and a heavy trigger.
The Uberti Schofield had a terrible bore out of the box and it spit lead. Ergos weren't that great either.
February 25, 2019, 02:05 PM
sorensonI had a very early model of a Desert Eagle in .357 magnum (circa mid 1980s). As a college kid, I was the envy of my peer group with it as far as looks, accuracy, and impressive fireball goes. But I rarely got a full magazine through it without a malfunction. The size made it impressive to look at and relatively mild to shoot, but I couldn't even reach the safety w/ my thumb easily.
Eventually traded it even up for a Belgian Browning T-series Hi Power. I'm convinced that I came out way ahead on the deal.
s.
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February 25, 2019, 02:07 PM
cslingerSPAS-12
Savage Mako. (Never had a bolt action jam so much)
"Guns are tools. The only weapon ever created was man."
February 25, 2019, 02:23 PM
tha1000Hudson H9
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February 25, 2019, 02:26 PM
Phantom229SW SW99. Thought it was a good version of the Walther P99, I was wrong.
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divilPara Ordnance p14 LDA. Trigger was not that great, even when compared to other DA triggers. Accuracy was meh. Only reliable with 230fmj. Quality of the Para felt cheap compared to Colts and Springfields. Gun writers hyped the fuck out of it and this fool had to have one.
It went down the road for a loss.
February 25, 2019, 03:01 PM
PASigDiamondback DB380
Kinda cool looking pocket .380 but it shot like shit, I recall trading it it after two range sessions.
February 25, 2019, 03:01 PM
x0225095quote:
Originally posted by FN in MT:
My disappointment gun was a Shiloh Sharps that I ordered back in the late 1990's. Went to Shiloh's plant in Big Timber, MT. Ordered my gun and paid the full price ahead of time. Two other friends ordered theirs at the same time.
In the mean time the company changed hands and a year later I get a call to pick up or for $50 they would send it.
Drove down and was given an additional bill for $100+ above and beyond what I already paid, which I thought was the FULL price. They stated the price I was quoted was the manufacturers price, BEFORE adding the excise tax added to all guns! We went round and around a bit, I finally got my gun.
It was beautiful but the front sight was so high it didn't shoot to point of aim at all. So I started filing the sight down. In order to zero I filed the front blade until it was starting to get too small. So had the rear modified by a gunsmith to allow me to zero yet still have enough front blade to still SEE.
The gun was never accurate with any smokeless powder. I wasted many months and at minimum $400 on various molds, lubes, pure lead, commercial cast and paper patched slugs, powders, etc. Best I could get was 3" at 50 yds.
So changed out the open sights for uber expensive aftermarkets. A globe front with various inserts and an adjustable tang for the rear. Another $300+ as I recall.
My groups shrank with better sights but I doubt that gun ever did 3" at 100 yds. My 100 yds groups were all 4-6 inches.
The gun was beautiful, great fit and finish but it simply didn't shoot as well as I thought it should.
Gave it to a friend with BP experience he came to the same conclusion after spending a few weeks with it.
Eventually sold it at a loss of several hundred dollars. That Shiloh Sharps was MY most disappointing gun in 45+ years of gun nut time.
I've been past their shop a number of times but never stopped in...it's right across the street from The Fort I believe. Anyway, that's a sad story to hear that so much heart and soul (apparently too much of yours and not enough of theirs) went into a firearm without results one would expect from a custom rifle.
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February 25, 2019, 03:11 PM
DetonicsMk6The ASP. Great theory, bad implimentation. The manufacturing process took away most of the anodizing and the gun was dehorned but hard to keep hold of. The sight was innovative but slow and imprecise. I would love to have one of the later ASPII's.
February 25, 2019, 03:23 PM
ChowserThe Calico. Only shot one with the 50rnd mag. Never tried it with the 100rnder.
Not minority enough! February 25, 2019, 03:26 PM
VoshterkoffM1A1 Carbine, that stock must have been designed on a bar napkin during happy hour.
February 25, 2019, 03:28 PM
RHINOWSOSIG P230SL, 1995 vintage.
I know some people love it, but even then it was big for it's caliber, heavy, and it's WW2 style ergonomics led me to not like it a whole lot, aside from lookin' at it.
I never shot it very well, although it was accurate if you benched it in SA - similar vintage P220/45 shot like a laser-beam at the same time. I don't recall it every malfunctioning except when friends shot it and induced issues when getting slide bitten by it.
Kept it for 2-ish years, likely put 1500rds through it before trading it in at some gunshop in Illinois while on leave. Got a Remington Marine Magnum out of the deal, which kept me happy for the next 10 years that I owned it. I guess for the money it would be nice to still have it, but it would just be in the safe to be ogled at from time to time.
I do count myself lucky to have that as my worst gun purchase. Better to be lucky that good, I always say.
February 25, 2019, 03:38 PM
hjs157CZ-USA SA vz.61
Scorpion in 7,65 x 17mm (.32 ACP). While it seemed cool at the time, this clunker of a semi-automatic pistol proved to be nothing more than an expensive novelty.