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Going back decades in the biggest terror attacks and school/mass shooting stories, there have been massive failures involving the FBI, not to mention other law enforcement.
Why isn't there more of an uproar about the gross incompetence and negligence in these stories?
Regardless of where you fall on the gun control debate, these all could have easily been stopped before they happened and fixing this problem should be the quickest and easiest way to stop future attacks without controversial legislation.

Both World Trade Center attacks happened after similarly mis-handled information was overlooked, often after many tips were received and an investigation.
This isn't the exception, almost all the major events like this will show up in a quick search showing a pattern of gross incompetence.

The Tsarnaev brothers-Boston Marathon bombing. Russian intelligence, yes those guys, warned the FBI about them more than a year before.

https://www.reuters.com/articl...dUSBREA2P02Q20140326

The Pulse Nightclub, the FBI investigated Omar twice and decided he was no threat.

https://theintercept.com/2017/...rterrorism-failures/

And of course, the recent Florida high school shootings where the FBI, Broward County and others dropped the ball time after time.

https://theintercept.com/2017/...rterrorism-failures/

Even Republicans, the NRA and others haven't made this a priority. The talk all seems to be about AR's, not the FBI.


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The government isn't good at investigating itself, especially the 'premier' law enforcement agency in the country.

People need their GS-retirement, after all.
 
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Old Roman saying:

"Who guards the guards?"

We have to figure that out - then we can have equal justice for all.
 
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Kind of makes you wonder.
 
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The government isn't good at investigating itself, especially the 'premier' law enforcement agency in the country.

People need their GS-retirement, after all.
Exactly. They'd say they'll do a comprehensive internal investigation, which will require more staffers and funds. After a couple of years, if not forgotten by the masses, they will acknowledge there is a problem not in fulfilling their duties, but rather "getting the message out" of their successes.
 
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The government isn't good at anything...
...other than squandering taxpayer money and fighting for television time. This is just a growing symptom of a huge bloated federal government.


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As far as I can tell, nothing happens to anybody. So long as they are somebody important. You can mishandle classified information. You can use your agency to hassle and punish conservative groups. You can sell weapons to drug gangs. You can head a police department that stands with their thumbs up their butts while kids get shot.

Nothing.

Happens.


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Two basic rules of government....

Never look into anything you don’t have to, and never set up an inquiry unless you know what the answer will be.

I’m beginning to think that giving us poor civilians the truth about these things is avoided because it ruins the royalties for insiders memoirs sold as a tell all.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Jeff sessions is out his depth and a deer in the headlights...


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The FBI is too busy trying to find dirt on Trump on behalf of the left to be bothered to do their real job.
 
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Originally posted by 220-9er:
Going back decades in the biggest terror attacks and school/mass shooting stories, there have been massive failures involving the FBI, not to mention other law enforcement.
Why isn't there more of an uproar about the gross incompetence and negligence in these stories?
Regardless of where you fall on the gun control debate, these all could have easily been stopped before they happened and fixing this problem should be the quickest and easiest way to stop future attacks without controversial legislation.

Both World Trade Center attacks happened after similarly mis-handled information was overlooked, often after many tips were received and an investigation.
This isn't the exception, almost all the major events like this will show up in a quick search showing a pattern of gross incompetence.

The Tsarnaev brothers-Boston Marathon bombing. Russian intelligence, yes those guys, warned the FBI about them more than a year before.

https://www.reuters.com/articl...dUSBREA2P02Q20140326

The Pulse Nightclub, the FBI investigated Omar twice and decided he was no threat.

https://theintercept.com/2017/...rterrorism-failures/

And of course, the recent Florida high school shootings where the FBI, Broward County and others dropped the ball time after time.

https://theintercept.com/2017/...rterrorism-failures/

Even Republicans, the NRA and others haven't made this a priority. The talk all seems to be about AR's, not the FBI.


Didn't the FBI also have info on the San Bernadino terrorists as well?



When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21


"Every nation in every region now has a decision to make.
Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush

 
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Originally posted by CQB60:
Jeff sessions is out his depth and a deer in the headlights...


If there's a single reason nothing happens, it is Mr. Magoo.


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When are Government employees ever held accountable in recent memory?


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When are Government employees ever held accountable in recent memory?


Not since the Clintons appeared on the scene to soil and corrupt everything they touched.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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incompetence knows no bounds in govt organizations, including LE and Justice govt organizations. it's the peter principle combined with good old fashioned laziness and corruption at the highest levels. nothing new to see here move on.




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Originally posted by 220-9er:
Going back decades in the biggest terror attacks and school/mass shooting stories, there have been massive failures involving the FBI, not to mention other law enforcement.
Why isn't there more of an uproar about the gross incompetence and negligence in these stories?
Regardless of where you fall on the gun control debate, these all could have easily been stopped before they happened and fixing this problem should be the quickest and easiest way to stop future attacks without controversial legislation.

Both World Trade Center attacks happened after similarly mis-handled information was overlooked, often after many tips were received and an investigation.
This isn't the exception, almost all the major events like this will show up in a quick search showing a pattern of gross incompetence.

The Tsarnaev brothers-Boston Marathon bombing. Russian intelligence, yes those guys, warned the FBI about them more than a year before.

https://www.reuters.com/articl...dUSBREA2P02Q20140326

The Pulse Nightclub, the FBI investigated Omar twice and decided he was no threat.

https://theintercept.com/2017/...rterrorism-failures/

And of course, the recent Florida high school shootings where the FBI, Broward County and others dropped the ball time after time.

https://theintercept.com/2017/...rterrorism-failures/

Even Republicans, the NRA and others haven't made this a priority. The talk all seems to be about AR's, not the FBI.


Didn't the FBI also have info on the San Bernadino terrorists as well?


That was Phillip Haney at the DHS. He was onto suspicious activity going on at some of the mosques in that area, but the Crimson Kenyan ordered him to shut the operation down and destroy all records.
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Obama had a pit bull with Holder, Sessions is a Maltese.


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Because it is a gov't bureaucracy.



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Trump, as POTUS, can simply fire Sessions, correct? I don't know why he doesn't do it. Yesterday he called Sessions "Mr. Magoo" probably thinking that the insult would force Sessions to resign. No such luck. Sessions doubled down on his determination to stay.

Do the Democrats have something on Sessions? Is he himself a willing creature of the swamp? Is he just flat out incompetent? Is he a total pussy? --Who cares? Whatever explains his inability to aggressively pursue any of the many blatant corruptions and crimes all around him, the fact remains that he does nothing.

I have gotten tired of all the "breaking news" about one crime and another. This time someone is going to jail! Not. I've had enough of it. Evenings lately I read. Right now, a great biography of U.S. Grant.

Let me know when Hillary is in a jump suit. Otherwise, it's all a show.


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Amen brother. I think Sessions is too embedded in the swamp with too many tentacles and roots to be effective, at best. At worst, he's one of the other things you listed. Too bad. An old man all out of piss and vinegar who should be fishing for crappie off a boat ramp. I wish Trump would toss him and put in a true professional without the political baggage and a reputation for bringing home the groceries.




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