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In Michigan you can face 5 years/10K fine for causing someone to "Feel Threatened"

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June 23, 2023, 04:54 PM
NOCkid
In Michigan you can face 5 years/10K fine for causing someone to "Feel Threatened"
New anti "hate speech" censorship pushed by our democrat legislature. It has become increasing embarrassing to reside here on an almost daily basis:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...b3247ea2c5421b&ei=14

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June 23, 2023, 04:57 PM
bendable
Either people in MI are wonderfully pleasant or MI
Has more jail space and court dockets than they know what to do with.





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June 23, 2023, 04:59 PM
selogic
Thought control ..
June 23, 2023, 05:00 PM
architect
No discriminatory enforcement, I'm quite sure.

Did I mention I suffer serious discomfort every time certain people open their mouths? Not naming names due to the no politics in non-political thread mandate.
June 23, 2023, 05:01 PM
gjgalligan
It will be interesting to see how they treat the pro 2an Amendment people.
The term "gun nut" hurts my feelings and makes me fell threatened.


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June 23, 2023, 05:36 PM
ruger357
On a brighter note, in Delaware, you can commit multiple felonies including gun felonies and get probation.


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June 23, 2023, 05:47 PM
Palm
I understand why you posted this and why it is a topic of interest. But can you show us where the word “discomfort” appears in that Bill? I’m not seeing it anywhere. I may be missing it. If it’s not in there, the thread title is a bit misleading.
June 23, 2023, 05:56 PM
NOCkid
Sorry, you're correct. Guess for some reason I substituted discomfort for threatened. Title adjusted.
June 23, 2023, 07:15 PM
400m
It just never ends.
June 23, 2023, 07:28 PM
Palm
quote:
Originally posted by NOCkid:
Sorry, you're correct. Guess for some reason I substituted discomfort for threatened. Title adjusted.


Of course, some people would probably argue that discomfort is equivalent to feeling threatened.
June 23, 2023, 08:25 PM
Cookster
Them POS and feckless politicians just gotta “do something” so their subjugated and brain-dead citizens will continue to “Respect their Authoritie”!


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June 23, 2023, 08:29 PM
TMats
I’m gonna guess that a white man can’t “feel threatened.” Sound about right?

Well, that was easy to confirm, wasn’t it


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June 24, 2023, 06:48 AM
Scooter123
So when does this new law go into effect? Because every single time wretched Gretchen opens her mouth I feel threatened, either financially or about my personal liberty.


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June 24, 2023, 12:13 PM
architect
quote:
Originally posted by Scooter123:
So when does this new law go into effect? Because every single time wretched Gretchen opens her mouth I feel threatened, either financially or about my personal liberty.


Yeah, forget about recall or waiting until an election. If everybody who felt like you in the State filed a "I feel threatened" complaint, how would the "authorities" react? Be interesting to see, anyway.

Perhaps we could get a MI attorney to weigh in on the wording of such, and the proper way to file?
June 24, 2023, 01:30 PM
patw
And I am sure it goes for both sides/ways right?
June 24, 2023, 01:56 PM
trapper189
quote:
Originally posted by Scooter123:
So when does this new law go into effect? Because every single time wretched Gretchen opens her mouth I feel threatened, either financially or about my personal liberty.
Old Mask up Michigan literally threatened people during COVID.
June 24, 2023, 02:46 PM
YooperSigs
Idiots voted for Whitmer. Then re-elected her. The failed recall effort was disappointing. She has big plans nationally (named to Bidens re-election team) so her BS can spread beyond Michigan. Kinda surprised she has not tried to run for President.
During her Covid lockdown (which she personally ignored), there were signs in peoples yards that read: "Thank you, Gov. Whitmer for saving our lives". Roll Eyes


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June 24, 2023, 03:02 PM
Rightwire
This is our evil dictator continuing to force her will upon us.




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June 24, 2023, 03:30 PM
Palm
quote:
Originally posted by Scooter123:
So when does this new law go into effect?


As of now, it has only been passed by the House. So it still has to be passed by the Senate, and then signed by the Governor, to become law. Bill progress is available here:

https://www.legislature.mi.gov...ectName=2023-HB-4474

Regarding architecht's question, the definition of "intimidate" in the Bill requires repeated or continuing harassment, so a single statement won't do. Also, it contains a "reasonable person" standard, so it can't just be the complainant saying that they feel intimidated. It has to be conduct that would actually intimidate a reasonable person.

Of course, like all criminal statutes, each local prosecutor is the primary arbiter of whether there is probable cause to bring charges.
June 25, 2023, 11:25 AM
Lord Vaalic
And are these "reasonable people" making the decision on what is threatening the same people who voted in these clowns? So unreasonable idiots will decide what is reasonable.

I am happy I moved out of this continuing to decline state.




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