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Changes to 401(K) tax rules could be coming

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September 16, 2017, 08:27 AM
XinTX
Changes to 401(K) tax rules could be coming
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Originally posted by braillediver:
We already spent those retirement funds- Who do you think we owe that $20 Trillion too?


And that $20 trillion doesn't include future promises of SS payments. If you add those in, it's about an order of magnitude higher. And I remember somewhere hearing that the GDP of the entire planet is just north of $150 trillion or so. So we have an obligation for more than all the money in the world. Most of that money has simply been flushed down the hole.


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September 16, 2017, 08:51 AM
Sig209
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Originally posted by sig77:
I try and keep a 50/50 Roth 401k and traditional 401k. Roth is not a terrible thing. Still tax deferral involved and may actually be better for folks overall.


Totally agree.

Having money in spread in both will give you options in retirement depending on your tax scenario at that time.

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September 16, 2017, 09:30 AM
Skull Leader
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I don't really see the problem. I've been maxing my Roth and not contributing to the 401k because I don't want the tax deferral. I likely will be in a higher bracket once I start taking money out.


We all will once they have to raise taxes just to cover this country's interest payments.
September 16, 2017, 09:33 AM
chellim1
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Originally posted by Sig209:
quote:
Originally posted by sig77:
I try and keep a 50/50 Roth 401k and traditional 401k. Roth is not a terrible thing. Still tax deferral involved and may actually be better for folks overall.

Totally agree.
Having money in spread in both will give you options in retirement depending on your tax scenario at that time.

Assuming the government honors its' commitment and the Roth is still tax-free upon withdrawal, it's a good strategy.
Still, it's hard to trust what the government will do 20 or 30 years down the road.
A bird in the hand and all that kind of stuff.


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September 16, 2017, 10:02 AM
grumpy1
Wow that is bad news and would also have a big impact on the savings rate.

Non taxable 401K contributions have a couple big advantages. Many if not most find themselves in a lower tax bracket in retirement. The biggest advantage by far is that the extra funds that people can put into their 401k because of it being tax exempt and the growth of those extra dollars over the decades can be very substantial.

But the government must feed the out of control monster they created and he is extremely hungry and it can not stand seeing all that money that it can't touch.

I assume they would do away with all IRAs other than Roth type also for future investments.