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We used to always ask, “are you the chicken or the pig”? This would work for various situations, shitty work environments, hard times on the road in general. We knew the difference as, when it comes to the most basic and famous of southern breakfasts, Eggs and Bacon, the chicken is invested in that meal, the pig however, is fully committed. So when you’re neck deep in suck, you wanna know if your buddy is merely invested or if he is committed. I found myself using it the other day with regards to addressing a current situation with leadership. They made the mistake of mentioning they were just as invested as I was…WRONG, if I’m gonna do something I’m the PIG. 10 years to retirement! Just waiting! | ||
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If you wish to sound folksy it fits. I think some would be offended thinking you were criticizing their waistline. The American public is a little slow when it comes to abstraction. Mark Twain might find it amusing. | |||
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Eah, to those not in the circle, it DOES require some explanation. 10 years to retirement! Just waiting! | |||
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A Grateful American |
Always the pig. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
I gotta admit: This is a new one on me, but I get it. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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I had not heard that before, but by golly I’m going to try to use it next week!  God bless America. | |||
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| Eye on the Silver Lining |
It was part of one of my favorite jokes, but I think it was more put as the chicken was “involved”, the pig was committed. Same difference, really, and a great way to get your point across, imho.  __________________________ "Trust, but verify." | |||
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| Busier than a cat covering crap on a marble floor  |
A sign with that phrase was on the wall in our neighborhood breakfast restaurant for 20+ years. I always thought it was funny & true. ________________________________________________________ The trouble with trouble is; it always starts out as fun. | |||
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We heard it as "For the chicken, it was a days work, for the pig it was a lifetime commitment." _____________________________________________ I may be a bad person, but at least I use my turn signal. | |||
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Common sense is genius dressed in its working clothes |
Saw that on a sign at Denny's. _______________________ “There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.” ― Frank Zappa | |||
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God damn! At Denny's? I've always known it wasn't THAT profound, but at least it coulda originated at a Waffle House. 10 years to retirement! Just waiting! | |||
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| Conveniently located directly above the center of the Earth  |
I've heard it before, rarely but well applied. My #1 son returned from the Marines 2+ decades past, and had picked up a lot of colorful & skilled phrases. One I immediately adopted was "Not my pig; Not my Farm". | |||
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Political Cynic |
^^^^ haven't heard that one before, but its a keeper | |||
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Thanks for that. At work I have a space/header on Skype for some sort of message, inspiration. The last phrase I had there was "A Message For Garcia". I'll be interested in the response to "chicken or pig" next week. . | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
I’ve come across it before. It’s a common teaching in business teams, swim lanes, and notifications with regards to projects. The pigs are the ones with most at stake and they should be deeply involved in decisions. The chickens aren’t affected by the project’s outcome as all that’s at risk is the egg they contribute but they should be notified anyways but not necessarily involved in decisions. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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| Ammoholic |
That’s good. The parallel one I’ve heard quite a bit is “Not my circus; not my monkeys.” I’d heard the line about the chicken being involved but the pig being committed, but I’d not heard the question phrased as in the O.P. | |||
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If you are not in deep enough, you may as well be shaking hands. Got the point across on a few occasions. Or fish? Or cut bait Or Shit or get off the pot Or The job is not in your pockets Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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Never heard it before but I get it, to a point. To be the pig you are sacrificing your life. I dont sacrifice my life for work. | |||
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