There are 6 properties that surround mine and those owners along with their friends and family all hunt, which is fine. I have mede it clear to them that I do not allow hunting on my property and they *say* they respect that but one neighbor may actually not. Their property consists of 200 acres with three family house sites so they have plenty of property. My thinking is the only reason to mount their stands right at our line is to hunt the entire area around their stand, am I wrong?

This tree stand is no more than 5 yards from my property line.



This one might be 7.



I have placed "No Hunting" signs facing their stands "as a reminder" and will have another talk with them but they will likely just repeat what they said last time, "I know you don't want hunting so we just face toward our property we don't look around behind." Is that legitimate? Assuming not any thoughts on the best way to deal with this w/o starting a feud?

Gives them more ability to shoot into their property and feel a bit more safely about it possibly.

They can also see if an animal is on your property traversing on to theirs possibly If it is on their property, so be it.

So they cannot look at your property?

If they are not bad folks, ease up. Harvesting deer will preserve the herd long term.

They are doing you a favor by shooting away from you by placing their stands where they are potentially.

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Originally posted by ridewv:
There are 6 properties that surround mine and those owners along with their friends and family all hunt, which is fine. I have mede it clear to them that I do not allow hunting on my property and they *say* they respect that but one neighbor may actually not. Their property consists of 200 acres with three family house sites so they have plenty of property. My thinking is the only reason to mount their stands right at our line is to hunt the entire area around their stand, am I wrong?

This tree stand is no more than 5 yards from my property line.



This one might be 7.



I have placed "No Hunting" signs facing their stands "as a reminder" and will have another talk with them but they will likely just repeat what they said last time, "I know you don't want hunting so we just face toward our property we don't look around behind." Is that legitimate? Assuming not any thoughts on the best way to deal with this w/o starting a feud?

IANAL, but if they do not aim or shoot into your land. Little you can do. They are hunting their property.

I'd say it's legitimate if they say they're only gonna hunt their land, but I'd also probably have a few cameras up to keep them honest. Keeps ypu from creating a problem where one doesn't already exist, and if it turns out a problem DOES exist you have proof and don't have to sit there and listen to them lie and swear up and down that they would never set foot on your land.

While it sucks they are so close, they are on their property. Not much you can do about it. Question is would you allow them to enter your property to track a deer shot on theirs?

Clearly delimiting the property line might be an effective "reminder" if they are well-intentioned.

You could look at it this way, if their stands were some distance inside their side of the property line, they would be more likely to be shooting at game that is on their property, but in your direction. Seems like an on-the-line stand has some benefit in restricting the angles in your direction.

I believe they are probably maximizing the view of their land. What better place to see the entirety of their own property than from the property line?

Trust but verify.

The OP could always cut down a few trees on property line and leave down to funnel away from neighbors stands.

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Originally posted by Perception:
I'd say it's legitimate if they say they're only gonna hunt their land, but I'd also probably have a few cameras up to keep them honest. Keeps ypu from creating a problem where one doesn't already exist, and if it turns out a problem DOES exist you have proof and don't have to sit there and listen to them lie and swear up and down that they would never set foot on your land.

Only add that I'd make is to have game cameras in a game camera security box cable locked or chained to tree. One of the favorite tactics of poachers/encroachers is to steal game cameras.

I suppose I could put up cameras pointed at their stands.
OK maybe they only hunt 180 degrees toward their land, and if a prize buck was 30-40' the other direction they would just watch it walk away, but I seriously doubt it.

It's hard to see in the images but their property had been more recently timbered and is thick with small trees so pretty difficult to get a clean shot.

I guess it's just me but if I hunted and my neighbor asked me not to on them, I'd not erect a stand 15' from their property.

It's hard to say for sure without knowing the deer trails and topology of the area. However, you cannot hunt a full 360 view from a deer stand. At best, maybe 270, more likely somewhere between 180-270 depending on type of stand and other obstructions (trees).

As long as they are on their property and not yours, there isn't anything you can do. If they shoot a deer on your property or have to track one they had shot from their property to yours, that's another issue(s).

As others have recommended, put up a few cameras that are well hidden that provide you a clear field of view of the area of concern and "clearly" delineate the property line...steel "T" posts for example brightly colored. That way, there are no excuses.

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Originally posted by ridewv:
What to do about neighbors hunting on your property?

There are 6 properties that surround mine and those owners along with their friends and family all hunt, which is fine. I have mede it clear to them that I do not allow hunting on my property and they *say* they respect that but one neighbor may actually not. Their property consists of 200 acres with three family house sites so they have plenty of property. My thinking is the only reason to mount their stands right at our line is to hunt the entire area around their stand, am I wrong?

This tree stand is no more than 5 yards from my property line.

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I have placed "No Hunting" signs facing their stands "as a reminder" and will have another talk with them but they will likely just repeat what they said last time, "I know you don't want hunting so we just face toward our property we don't look around behind." Is that legitimate? Assuming not any thoughts on the best way to deal with this w/o starting a feud?

Until youhave proof that they were also hunting on your property, nothing you can do about it. Right now, it's all suspicion. That makes the thread title misleading.

Deer, especially canny bucks, tend to respond to hunting pressure by not only going nocturnal but by going where the pressure isn’t. Hunting right up to the property line is not a bad tactic for them to use because it increases their chance of seeing game.

That said, I might put up a very obvious game cam backed up by one not so obvious to gauge their honesty. As Reagan said, “Trust, but verify”.

You seem to have mechanized transport to those locations.

It’s hard to tell from the pictures but:

How do they plan to get to their stands?
Do they have a trail system?
Do they have shooting lanes on their property leading to their stands?
Are there game trails running past their stands?
Are there game trails running across the property line?
Do you see any other signs that there is game on your property?

Hunters put stands and blinds in places where they think they will be successful. Hunters take into account wind direction and game trails when placing stands and blinds. They try to approach their stands downwind from where their quarry might be.

I guess what I’m getting at is that hunters are selective about the locations they place their stands. Or course so are assholes. It’s going to be up to you to decide which is which based on what you see.

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Originally posted by gpbst3:
While it sucks they are so close, they are on their property. Not much you can do about it. Question is would you allow them to enter your property to track a deer shot on theirs?

This is the question. Do they have to have your permission to track a deer on your property and do you have to give permission ? What is WV law ? Not much of a neighbor to basically hunt the property line IMO.

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Originally posted by gpbst3:
.... Not much you can do about it. Question is would you allow them to enter your property to track a deer shot on theirs?

I believe it's law in WV that a hunter can track his deer on you. Not so in PA.
Every year they are tracking deer on my property which they shot and they usually tell me about it. Two years ago I noticed a 8-point buck in the area, that's when they added the second stand. I was away on Thanksgiving when one of them called to tell me they shot and were tracking it on my property. Two days later when I returned home I went over near their stand to check and saw blood on my trail about 25' to the left of the stone property line wall in the second picture. I could find none toward their property but I followed the blood maybe 150 yards through my property and found a spot with a lot of blood, presumably where it laid down and died. In talking with one of them two days later he said "I hit that big buck but it ran on your property". I said yeah I saw that and followed the blood to where it laid down, I assume you retrieved it? He said no, he'd followed it to that spot but it got up and ran off toward my house. He followed its trail through my yard and behind the house through thick Laural where he lost it and gave up. Last year he hit one with a cross bow which came on me but he couldn't find it either.

Put up some cameras . Make sure the property line is clearly marked . If you know the Game Warden in your area you might want to have a chat with him and give him a heads up about your concerns . It may help down the road . Also make sure your neighbor has your contact info in case he needs to track a Deer that gets on your side of the line .

Backing up to a property line is an acceptable compromise to 'hunting across a line'. If they shoot a deer on their side & it runs into your property, what will you do? For a good neighbor, I'd even give them a little bit of a buffer before I complained.
Got an ATV/UTV? trail along the property line & joyriding at the ass crack of dawn will get them to move...
Had some assholes that would cut trees right along the property line and drop them across my trails (among other asshole things). Guess what I did on opening day of deer season? Tested how my ATV sounded with the core out of the muffler.

That property line in very clear, there is a stone wall and I have signs up.

I have no problem with them tracking an animal that they shoot on their property, that crosses on to me. But I do have a real problem with them hunting on my property.

All really good advice for the OP.
If you camera and tag trees then they will know where they can and can’t shoot.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Until you have proof that they were also hunting on your property, nothing you can do about it. Right now, it's all suspicion. That makes the thread title misleading.

This ^^^^^