Netflix is bringing back Perry Mason in a week or so. Except, Perry Mason is a down on his luck shabbily dressed, scruffy guy in some early era film noir L.A.

And no, the famous theme song isn't featured in the trailer.

Why even bother calling it Perry Mason?

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Originally posted by M'headSig:
Netflix is bringing back Perry Mason in a week or so. Except, Perry Mason is a down on his luck shabbily dressed, scruffy guy in some early era film noir L.A.

Columbo?

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Originally posted by oldbill123:


Quarter life crisis ? Ha ha ha ha

That's real. I had one. Ended up with a bunch of sport bike motorcycles, sleeping with a bunch of chicks, and a bunch of debt... but it was a blast.

It's like a mid life crisis, with less Corvettes.

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Originally posted by Haveme1or2:
Face it gents....
These reboots aren't for the older to relive their past.
It's a 30yr olds world now ....

Oh, give me a fucking break. If you want to play the part of old geezer savant, have at it, but don't try to convince me and the other guys my age that it's no longer our world. Get your head out of your ass and wipe it off with that white flag of yours.

It's no longer my world when I pass from it, and not one single second before that. Your "thirty year olds" these days are still living at home with mommy and can't drive a stick and have the life coping skills of a jar of mayonnaise. Take away their wireless connection and they'd be in a fetal position in the corner within the hour. What bullshit.

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:

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Originally posted by oldbill123:
Quarter life crisis ? Ha ha ha ha

That's real.

Aeteocles, you're a nice guy, but, man, that's just silly. Everything is a crisis for young people, and saying there is such a thing as "quarter life crisis" diminishes the phenomenon from which this phrase was stolen- the mid-life crisis.

It's not stepping three feet into the river and then becoming unsure of your direction that matters. At that age, all is before you. What matters is getting halfway across the river and thinking "My God, what am I doing?"

That is real, because there's no going back.

Thank you. ^

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Originally posted by Orguss:
And instead of Shaolin martial arts, she's practiced in Capoeira.

(wretch)

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Originally posted by M'headSig:
Netflix is bringing back Perry Mason in a week or so. Except, Perry Mason is a down on his luck shabbily dressed, scruffy guy in some early era film noir L.A.

And no, the famous theme song isn't featured in the trailer.

Why even bother calling it Perry Mason?

Well, FWIW, Earl Stanley Gardner (who created Perry Mason) made his name in early era noir.

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:

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Originally posted by oldbill123:


Quarter life crisis ? Ha ha ha ha

That's real. I had one. Ended up with a bunch of sport bike motorcycles, sleeping with a bunch of chicks, and a bunch of debt... but it was a blast.

It's like a mid life crisis, with less Corvettes.

That's no crisis, friend. That's simply a decent example of actually doing some living in the active verb sense. Normal parts of growing up for a great many.

Wholly unimpressive and pedestrian, those experiences, however fun. Not at all rare or unusual. Shared by gozillions in so many flavors. Such dramatic language for such normal shit, frankly.

You checked off boxes 3-6. Cool. Really.

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:

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Originally posted by oldbill123:
Quarter life crisis ? Ha ha ha ha

That's real. I had one. Ended up with a bunch of sport bike motorcycles, sleeping with a bunch of chicks, and a bunch of debt... but it was a blast.

Doesn't sound like any kind of "crisis" to me. Sounds about like what I did at about the end of my first quarter of adulthood--except for the sport bikes.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:

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Originally posted by oldbill123:
Quarter life crisis ? Ha ha ha ha

That's real.

Aeteocles, you're a nice guy, but, man, that's just silly. Everything is a crisis for young people, and saying there is such a thing as "quarter life crisis" diminishes the phenomenon from which this phrase was stolen- the mid-life crisis.

It's not stepping three feet into the river and then becoming unsure of your direction that matters. At that age, all is before you. What matters is getting halfway across the river and thinking "My God, what am I doing?"

That is real, because there's no going back.

The mid life crisis was coined in an era where life choices built up slower over time. You didn't realize you had gotten halfway across the river until after a long slog because the river, if you stopped for a moment, wasn't all that bad. You could reliably raise a family on one income with just your hands, middling skill, and a good work ethic. A college degree was an optional path.

For young people of my generation (I belong to the first cohort of "millennials", turning 18 at the turn of the millennium) the river crossing was more perilous. We were raised in an era to believe that to get ahead in life, we needed the fanciest college degree (and then a master's or better) money could buy; forced fed inflated tuition costs and soul crushing school loans as "normal"; graduated in the midst of soaring housing prices, flat purchasing power, and the notion that a house and a family really should take two full-time income earners to achieve; and then having our careers stagnate because of the Recession.

I would argue that the quarter-life crisis was real. I've seen so many people of my cohort, right between age 25-35, work so hard to one day say, "Fuck this, I'm out," and just quit their life up to that point to do something completely different.

For myself, it was nearly 20 consecutive years of schooling, nearly 300k in school debt, all culminating into stagnant job prospects that pushed me into the thinking that I /deserved/ better--and I should just do whatever and buy whatever I want. To me, that sounds alot like a man working half his life to decide to make a drastic change because he too deserved better/should have made these choices long ago.

To go back to your river analogy, I might have only made it a quarter of the way across the river, but from my vantage, it was a crappy 3 feet of chest deep white water and it was still too late to turn around because I had already been swept downstream.

The only thing any of these 're-boots' or 're-imaginings' have in common with the originals is the name. They are just the lazy persons way of making a program or movie. Most of the viewers they are aimed at have never heard of nor seen the originals

And, just putting this out there: yes, sleeping with a bunch of chicks, buying a bunch of stupid cars/toys and getting yourself into a bunch of debt is a "normal" experience for many.

But, imagine Young Aeteocles as the kid that wore a jacket and tie to all his high school exams, before deciding to do something "drastic" and "cool".

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:

For young people of my generation (I belong to the first cohort of "millennials", turning 18 at the turn of the millennium) the river crossing was more perilous. We were raised in an era to believe that to get ahead in life, we needed the fanciest college degree (and then a master's or better) money could buy; forced fed inflated tuition costs and soul crushing school loans as "normal"; graduated in the midst of soaring housing prices, flat purchasing power, and the notion that a house and a family really should take two full-time income earners to achieve; and then having our careers stagnate because of the Recession.

Wait a minute here. By my math I’ve got 8 years on you. I’m mid 40’s. I heard all the same bullshit in my 20’s and knew it was just that. I paid my own way through college, 2 degrees, and the second one was a 5 year program that was a mother fucker. I had academic scholarship opportunities and they all paid tuition and books but I was to be on the hook for the dorms, and they were mandatory, and obscenely priced. I saw other people just taking out massive loans which I thought it was financially stupid. So I went to JC 5 years later, then went to my 4 year school, a state school, and paid my way through, working full time from day 1 until the end. I busted my ass taking a massive pay cut from music to my degree field, starting at the bottom as a sophomore to the point I was making $30 an hour my senior year, getting tuition reimbursement through my company and ultimately graduating with 2 degrees with 17k in school debt which I paid off under a consolidated 2.9% loan.

I think most millennials are either pussies are just plain stupid. I saw through the marketing and bullshit. I asked people 5 years ahead if this or that college really made a difference locally, the answer was always no. Same for GPA. They sell all sorts of shit to people and little of it is true.

I bought my first sportbike, actually my first two, while in college. I had a nice new car too and the idiots at my college were “Must be nice to be rich” just automatically assuming I had 6 or 7 figure parents, no. I came from nothing, lived with one parent that was rarely there and didn’t speak to the other. I raised myself, starting at 5, and started working near full time at 10 years old. So I don’t buy the millennial excuses. You reap what you sow. My 5 years of college were a bitch. I saw others not working, partying, going to keggers, buying that fancy new laptop, going to elaborate spring break trips. Taking off summers and doing this “college” experience thing that I knew at 10 was a bunch of bullshit. Millennials want to blame someone they need to blame their sorry ass parents for not teaching them that the world is hard, and you have to hustle. Hell they need to blame themselves. If you are that gullible well the chickens come home to roost.

I’ll never forget. Some of the same classmates I had, when i told them I had a job in the field doing 56k dial up support making $10 an hour (And I was booking gigs at $1,000 an hour in music prior) barked. “No way would I do that”. “I’m not working for that shit money.” I was trying to explain to them that I could get them on, at the base, and you work your way up. None of them listened. I’m a junior and I’m working for a major telecommunications carrier making $30 an hour, about $80k with OT, on-call pay, and shift work which paid 1.5. We get to senior year and each of them is stating “I’m getting 45k at least starting out” and I would laugh at them. I’d tell them you have no experience, best of luck. “But I have a 3.5 GPA” and I’d have to break it to them that employers just don’t give that much of a fuck about that. The degree yes, your major yes, but that’s about it. So last semester each one of them is asking me if I can get them a job. Keep in mind none of them were willing to do what I did, and come in at the bottom and work their way up. I had to break it to them that you have no experience and my boss and his peers wouldn’t even interview you. Then they had the nerve to ask how I got the job. I answered that I had experience, 3 employers, each time working my way up. The boss looked at my resume and said damn, you are in college? Then saw the positions I had worked at during the same time. The degree didn’t get me the job, the experience in lower positions didn’t get me the job, the hustling did. The boss saw a go getter, doing both. Not some spoiled little brat who is too good to start at the bottom.

I also went through the inflated home costs, and hustled and got a nice place for a very nice price. I also went through 7 layoffs that killed my 30’s, the whole decade. You won’t see me complaining. Life is hard, you deal with it. You don’t whine about what you are taught, state that the government should pay your school loans, or ask for free shit. You hustle. Adapt or die. America has always been this way. There is no free lunch. Only this millennial generation and up thinks they are entitled to the good life and/or there should be free shit. Sorry, fuck no. You could have done what I did, go to JC, stay in state and go to a state uni and work your way through college, by any means necessary. Then you wouldn’t be 200k in debt and whining like bitches.

The world has gone soft. Everyone and their feelings and entitlement. It’s sickening to everyone who is older that busted their ass. As far as I’m concerned, if you had a couple of decent parents, or even one, well you are way ahead of me and I had next to zero, totally self taught. There are just no excuses for yourself. No blame.

Everything is a "crisis" these days - the new culture of "victimhood", "phobias" and "conditions" for everyone to have an "excuse" for their decisions / actions / situations.

It's called LIFE.

What got the younger generations into trouble was and is - easy credit. No one would loan us any money without collateral. So basically, we had no access to the addiction and the youngsters can't break themselves from it. Nor accept responsibility for it

Prefontaine,

I'm happy for you. It's a good story and I hope that you enjoyed telling it.

But, my position has nothing to do with hard work bringing success over adversity, nor was it complaining/whining about being a millennial.

My position is that to the extent someone in their 50's is allowed to get a divorce, quit their job, and buy a sports car as a panic response for not having lived the life they had envisioned, a similar panic response can be had by people in their late 20's and early 30's due to [some of the reasons I've listed above]. It's not an assertion outside the realm of possibility, I've witnessed it amongst my peers and identified it as having some influence in my own history.

It's not an argument. Nobody has to win. It's ok just to listen to someone else share their experiences.

And, just to be clear, I've identified facts about what it was like to grow up in the 80's and 90's, to graduate highschool and college in the 2000's, to try to find a job during the recession, etc. Some of it from my perspective, yes, but most of it should easily resonate as fact. These are not complaints. Pointing out that life wasn't all participation trophies and avocado toast doesn't mean I was soft, worked less hard, or let all of that get me down. I'm fairly certain my accomplishments, and the amount of work put in to get here, holds its own just fine.

Ultimately, this thread is about a TV show who's main character has a quarter life crisis. All I'm saying, and am still saying, is that yeah, totally within the realm of possibility for some 25-30 year olds to decide to pick up their lives and do some crazy shit because, yeah, by age 30, they've already made some heavy decisions that can be hard to turn back on.

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Originally posted by Fredward:
I'm still upset with the Hawaii 5-0 reboot. Talk about sucking.....and its not particularly "woke." At least, as far as I could tell from watching half a show.

It could have been a decent show if the’d gone with a more plot driven series. Hawaii isn’t Chechnya with better scenery and everyone here isn’t into Parkour, so it lost credibility rather quickly. Too bad they didn’t fire the writers early on and chose to run it into the ground instead. NoW it’s cancelled and they’re all looking for work.

Maybe show will feature a Kung flu episode.