This @ 29 minute news report is from the Swedish version of Dateline and is a fairly balanced report with both Left and Right perspectives.

Ahead of their September national election, Swedes are starting to realize that several of their successive governments have failed to integrate migrants and increasingly starting to support political parties taking hardline stances against additional migration and pushing for tougher stances on crime.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WjZrY44T0rI

Most of the Northern European countries, to include Sweden like to think of themselves as being culturally egalitarian, very high-minded and considered. Most of the immigrants they've let in over the last 30-years, don't think much of egalitarianism or, any kind of social plurality. Most Swede's are not very religious, twice-a-year-Christians at the most; most of the immigrants come from Islamic countries, where strict adherence is a hallmark of the religion. Women's rights and homosexuality are allowed in Western societies but, considered blasphemous and insulting to the cultures many of the immigrants come from.

Then there's the issues of the Swedish culture in-general, like the other Northern European cultures, they're very nice on the surface but, they're almost reluctant to open-up, giving an impression of discrimination or, shunning. I had a friend who married a Dane, she's American, they had a son and moved to Copenhagen. It took her nearly 2-years living there to get a job despite having an MBA, even after she had secured all the documents paving the way towards Danish citizenship.

As long as I can remember Sweden has always been more Left than the rest of Europe, their liberal immigration policies are now biting them in the rear or, should I say, biting their hands.

My brief experience with Sweden is that the government does not represent the people.

^^^Sounds unfortunately similar to another country I've got lifelong familiarity with...

With all of it's self-made Leftist immigrant problems and despite the pain and national embarrassment that I'm assuming many Swedes are feeling after decades of failed national policy (the same is true for the U.S. and other countries), there is one glaring omission in this news report that I admire the Swedes for. One missing thing stands out to me.

I wonder if anyone who bothered to watch the news report noticed this?

Despite the increasing shootings, stabbings, explosive attacks, illegal drug crime, and horrific brutal rapes (not mentioned in the report), the one thing you don't hear mentioned in this report is a call for increased gun control. Whatever their misguided beliefs or policies you don't hear the average everyday Swede interviewed bellyachin' about the availability of guns in their culture leading to this crime wave. Even the Sweden Democrat political party leader, doctor, police and social worker interviewed aren't complaining that the spike in crime is due to guns.

Hell, even the Leftist pro-migrant activist interviewed doesn't mention the availability of guns as the cause of the crime problem, but falls back on the tired trope of not enough government programs and resources spent to keep these migrant children from dropping out of Swedish schools at a young age, causing them to lack opportunities, and turn to migrant criminal gangs.

If this had been an American news magazine report they would have been hammering the gun control angle hard and often, and stacked the report with all sorts of so-called "experts" pumping out gun control sound bytes dripping with faked emotion and outrage.

For all their failed migrant policies, at least Swedes can look in the mirror and accurately assess their problem as migrant related, rather than displacing blame on a demonized tool...and I find that level of honesty refreshing.

One half of my family is from there so I found it especially interesting.

The country has been one of the few in the world where most seemed to be comfortable with high taxes and government benefits. They have also not had many of the problems of many other places.

Many there, and outsiders too, attribute this to a great and superior system that should be adopted elsewhere. Others, myself included, think they have just been an oasis in the world, out of the way geographically, with a very small population and have mostly done OK by keeping the rest of the world at arms length.

An anomaly of human nature, or so it was thought. But their government, and many of their people, misread cause and effect. Now suddenly, they are experiencing what the rest of the world has experienced when they ignore the laws of human nature. Neutrality seemed to work great as foreign policy until the problem landed on their doorstep and they realized they could easily be next. Suddenly NATO membership looks a lot more attractive.

This is just like what they have done by staying out of outside world politics and being neutral in most world affairs. Now they are seeing what the rest of the world has to deal with on both fronts.

Those damn Ghost Guns again.

Rapes and sexual assaults are a huge problem in Sweden, as well as, all the NO-GO zones their new immigrants have set up.

A comment in the video is that Sweden is failing the immigrants. How about its the other way around and immigrants do not give any thought to assimilation.

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Originally posted by downeastnc1:
A comment in the video is that Sweden is failing the immigrants. How about its the other way around and immigrants do not give any thought to assimilation.

You're not wrong, however, I wouldn't make that a singular talking point; moving to a different county, learning a new language and figuring out a new culture isn't easy but, it's also not impossible, plenty have done it.

West & North Africans moving to France, Turks moving to Germany, Indian/Pakistanis moving to UK, Indonesians moving to Netherlands...all have had sizable groups migrate and assimilate to their new countries. Not sure if the East Africans & Central Asians which seem to predominate the Scandinavian countries migrant populations are doing any better. Scandinavian language is pretty tough and culturally, once you get past the surface, Scandinavian's can be perceived as cold and insular, not very accommodating. Not unusual for outsiders to comment about how Northern Europeans are direct, to-the-point, minimal chit-chat or, faffing-about. Which then brings up the question, if a host country's culture has a hard-shell about it, why are they bringing in people from other parts of the world, if assimilation is going to be much tougher road than say other European cultures?

Quite impressively, they managed to make a half-hour video on crime in Sweden without saying the words “Islam” or “Muslim” ONCE.

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Originally posted by Steyn:
Quite impressively, they managed to make a half-hour video on crime in Sweden without saying the words “Islam” or “Muslim” ONCE.

Yeah, that very point wasn't lost on me either. When the interviewer asked the police and social worker what the profile was of the criminals conducting these crimes they carefully stopped at "young males in the 18-28 year old range", all while driving through a migrant neighborhood on the way to intervene with one of these migrants.

The Swedish government has been cracking down on any citizen protesting this government's immigration policy or pointing out just who is committing these crimes, including lower government officials...including fines and arrests.

So the descriptor "migrant" is now the term for Muslims allowed in to the country when Swedes are protesting the government's policies.

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Originally posted by Modern Day Savage:

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Originally posted by Steyn:
Quite impressively, they managed to make a half-hour video on crime in Sweden without saying the words “Islam” or “Muslim” ONCE.

Yeah, that very point wasn't lost on me either. When the interviewer asked the police and social worker what the profile was of the criminals conducting these crimes they carefully stopped at "young males in the 18-28 year old range", all while driving through a migrant neighborhood on the way to intervene with one of these migrants.

The Swedish government has been cracking down on any citizen protesting this government's immigration policy or pointing out just who is committing these crimes, including lower government officials...including fines and arrests.

So the descriptor "migrant" is now the term for Muslims allowed in to the country when Swedes are protesting the government's policies.

As an immigrant to Canada (a legal one, of course), the bundling up of these people with people like me peeves me off to no end.

It’s not Portuguese, Brazilian, Chileans or Korean immigrants who are turning Sweden into California. And it’s not Christians, Buddhists or Jews who have changed the cultural makeup of that fair country.

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Originally posted by Steyn:
Quite impressively, they managed to make a half-hour video on crime in Sweden without saying the words “Islam” or “Muslim” ONCE.

They wouldn't have been allowed to release the video if they'd even breathed a suggestion that Islam harms Swedes.

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Originally posted by downtownv:
Rapes and sexual assaults are a huge problem in Sweden, as well as, all the NO-GO zones their new immigrants have set up.

I would think rapes haven’t abated since the time videos were going around where women would be swallowed up by a sea of Muslim men who would sexually assault them. It seemed like at least six years ago?

I’m surprised there hasn’t been any recent reporting on this.