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Thats a low res stream. The image is pretty small, I cant see what is in the top left corner of the video in the BI snapshot, but guessing this shows the stream, something like 500 kbps? ____________________________ peakperformanceshooting.com | |||
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Exactly. The VMS will usually offer a lo and a high res stream to optimize any bandwidth scenarios. | |||
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Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us |
how do I adjust this? And looks like adjusting to a stic IP setting in the camera did not help. I lost the feed again in BllueIris I used to like fooling with computers, electronics, and the like but now it is just too freaking complicated. Videos games are the same way have become far too complex and involved to keep my attention since Super Nintendo. My brain just does not function well enough for this stuff. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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Hmmmmm ...The IP shouldn't change on the cam unless you choose dhcp.. The low res substream thing is a setting likely in the stream code you see in the camera "video" tab. Not to worry, I'll download BI and find it for ya. The fact you have the cam showing is the biggest thing. The rest is time playing with settings. I'm right there with ya Black. That's why I went with HDCVI and a Tribrid DVR. I run all CVI cams but can add IP cams if I want/need. Simple, reliable, and 99% of the features with the same image quality as IP cams up to 8MP. Run almost any kinda cable from dvr to each cam, plug n play. Oh, and less expensive by about 25% The few differences are independent camera schedules for day/night,(though the better CVI cameras have that now) and some of the more sophisticated intelligence like line crossing is limited to a single channel. I'm over the cool factor of IP everything, I want ease of use and reliability and I don't want my toaster or fridge talking back to me. Screwing with network issues is no longer my idea of fun ____________________________ peakperformanceshooting.com | |||
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Maybe I will look into this CVI you are speaking of. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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I'm looking at B.I. now. right click on the cam pic and choose camera properties then look at the video tab. Then click configure. when you choose the port, I think there is a low speed and a high speed port. try switching ports. Find the right port from the web interface. . | |||
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Its hard talking technology in short bytes but just so you have a basic understanding: IP systems- each camera is its own network node. Each has its own IP address and is essentially a stand alone computer. Connecting the cameras to a NVR or PC based VMS such as Blue Iris allows you to centrally manage them and record to a central place. 8 cameras = 8 IP computers to manage on the network. HD Analog systems- Not your fathers analog, these now provide the same quality and most features of IP cameras with less networking complications. They transmit a HD signal (up to 4K now) back to a DVR. The cameras are NOT stand alone IP nodes on the network, thus only the DVR has an IP address. Accessing the cameras is done through the DVR. Less IP networking concerns. There are two manufacturers that make most all of the systems you find at the consumer level (IP and HD) and are rebranded to names like QSee, Lorex, Amcrest and others - Dahua and HIK. Each has their own HD technology, but they are effectively the same. HDCVI (Dahua) and TVI (HIK) are analog technologies that now rival the image quality and sophistication of IP systems with a couple of main differences: 1- Because they were born to take advantage of existing old analog cabling without replacing everything with new cable, they can be run with Coax, Siamese, or Cat5/6 cable and can travel longer distances than IP based systems. Both power and video signal can travel over the same cable. 2- Because each camera must be connected directly back to a DVR, the DVR becomes the access point for all cameras, and more of the camera management is done at the DVR instead of each individual camera. (NOTE: Like IP cams, CVI/TVI cameras also have their own camera specific settings beyond the DVR settings to fine tune, adjust image quality etc, but you access the camera menus through the DVR) I suppose if you're under 30 and like tinkering with IP based stuff and networking, IP systems have some advantages. They can be "daisy chained" using IP networking tricks and gear so that you dont actually have to home run each camera cable back to the NVR. It also makes integrating each individual camera into things like home automation systems theoretically easier. So if you want your IP based toaster to talk to camera #3 and alert you when the bread pops up, then IP is the way to go HDCVI systems have all of the same bells and whistles as IP base systems, Motion detection, smartphone integration, and now even home automation integration (Doorbell cams, Voice, alarm, etc) Camera selection is just as robust as IP systems- see latest catalog http://www1.dahuasecurity.com/...Selection-2017V3.pdf ____________________________ peakperformanceshooting.com | |||
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I am liking this HDCVI business. Can any brand HDCVI camera be used with any HDCVI DVR?? What brand DVR are you using? I presume the DVRs come with the software to provide remote viewing and notifications? ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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Generally speaking CVI has been restricted to Dahua cams and DVR. (And TVI to HIK branded equipment) However the newer Dahua Tribrid and Pentabrid DVR's can run a mix of CVI, TVI, plain old analog, and IP on the same system. Still helps to coordinate Dahua branded cams and DVR to get the most functionality. ____________________________ peakperformanceshooting.com | |||
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IP cameras all play well together. The archaic CCTV are specific to the type (CDI or TVI) for the most part. Anything that is making it "easier" to configure is mostly in the software and not hardware related anyway. Newer CCTV systems do offer some crossover but know eventually it will be a dinosaur. Again, camera systems in general (CCTV or IP) can be very complicated and is why many just buy the cheapie all-in-one systems off the shelf. | |||
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With due respect, I think most think of "old analog" when talking about HD systems and aren't fully up to speed on the newer offerings. Analog is still by far the highest volume seller of the big OEM's. HD analog, CVI/TVI have come a very long way and while perhaps not appropriate for large commercial installations, for residential and light commercial, they have a lot of advantages, primarily simplicity. With the new Tribrid, Penatbrid and XVR DVR's, that can also record and connect with IP cameras, I cant honestly think of a downside, as you can enjoy the best of both worlds. ____________________________ peakperformanceshooting.com | |||
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I respect your opinion bigredfish. True HD Analog has come a LONG way. But just know it is declining among integrators. If you understand some basic principles then there is no need to box your self in with analog. However, there are scenarios where this technology is entirely appropriate. | |||
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So I finally finished up playing with the evaluation version and setup cameras and did everything right there on the PC. So I bought the full version and now I am trying to setup Email alerts, SMS alerts, and remote monitoring and man is my brain hurting!!!! Porting, WAN IP, etc, etc, wowzers this is not going well! ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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What are you concerns? Perhaps we can help you. Some of us do TCP/IP for a living. | |||
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Not really concerns I just have no clue what I am doing with networking stuff/ I was able to get the Email to work. I setup a new gmail account specifically for camera alerts so it would not clog up my other addresses but also so I could turn on the audible notification of new emails. I don't have instant notifications of my other email addresses nothing is important enough to have the constant ding. Google was blocking the access from the App so I granted it log in access and that is working. I am trying to setup the remote access webserver and I don't know what a lot of the stuff means. If I get home at a decent time tomorrow I will post the wizard slides that I am getting errors with to see if you all can help me out. But for now I need to get some sleep as I have to get up early so I can get down to my cabin and get some work done on the bathroom/ ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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I think I finally have it figured out. Everything was there in front of my just had to figure out what was what and where to enter it in the settings. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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Black92LX, are you still using the Blue Iris Ip camera software? I found your thread as I was researching Blue Iris vs Synology's Surveillance Station. My first thought was to go with Synology, but digging through threads on ipcamtalk, some people seem to be migrating from Synology to Blue Iris for a number of reasons. I'm wondering how things are working for you one year on. | |||
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I am still running Blue Iris and am very happy with it. It certainly has a learning curve to work through but if I can do it anyone can. I only have 3 cameras currently and don't have a dedicated PC yet. Though I am working on it. A very generous karma was given to me by a member with nice CPU, motherboard and RAM. I need to buy a case, power supply, HD and OS but was hit with some medical bills and looks like a few more are about to hit us. So I have not had a chance to pick up those parts yet. For my modest 3 cameras my PC chugs along just fine but as I add more camera it will certainly fall behind. But hopefully in a month or so I can knock these bills down and get the dedicated machine for the cameras finished. For a one time payment of $60 for he program and mobile app. I have all the instant alerts to text message and email as well as live viewing from anywhere that most folks charge a monthly fee for. I know I am not even close to using the program to it's full potential. I have no clue about Synology so I can't compare. I tried an opensource program (forget the name)and it was not as user friendly. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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Not Black92LX but I've been using BI for over a year now. Took me a while to get it setup and working. I had to setup each camera first, then got them all integrated with BI. I keep my cameras on a private network but my BI server has access to the internet. I like having the phone app. Took me about a month of tweaking to get it where I wanted it. To be honest I think the only thing I've done is updates since then. If I want to look at something, it is always there. I am using a pretty fast new computer I built as a dedicated BI server. It runs at about 15% CPU utilization. There are encoding options on some cameras that let you run H265 instead of H264 which cuts down on cpu utilization. I am running Hikvision cameras and have been extremely happy with the lack of effort I have been putting into maintaining it. | |||
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What did you use for your dedicated server? Did you compare your Hikvision cameras with the Dahua starlights? How do you handle alerts? Does the BI software allow you to schedule recording around triggered events? Full time recording gets storage-intensive. | |||
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