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Originally posted by cjevans:

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Originally posted by jljones:

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Originally posted by Bulldog7972:
That guy is a pussy. He should have stood his ground and refused to move. Whats the security guard going to do? Push him? Then it's on. Take a defensive posture and let the security guard bring his best game. Looks like this incident occurred in a public place. He had every right to be there as much as anyone. Pussy.

Yep, this.

+1.

Everyone enjoys a public place.

If that was a march and a permit then there maybe some restrictions?

For myself, if the private security gentleman identified as an off duty LEO, I would respect that. I would maintain a friendly dialogue in any case, yet being mindful of my own ... space.

Hard to be a 30 second quarterback isn't it?

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Originally posted by Edmond:

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Originally posted by cjevans:
For myself, if the private security gentleman identified as an off duty LEO, I would respect that. I would maintain a friendly dialogue in any case, yet being mindful of my own ... space.

Hard to be a 30 second quarterback isn't it?

My issue is, is he being there as hired private security or is he there working for public safety?

Seems total bullshit to me he can use credentials paid for by the taxpayer for him to throw around while working privately.

Either you're on duty or you're not, pick one.

"Oh, I wanna play police right now and run this red light..."

Another issue, fix the compensation so cops don't have to work side jobs to make ends meet. The work/stress to pay ratio is pretty bad for most from what I've seen.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Excuse me, what right does a private security guard have to tell people where they can stand?

Being that we only have a 30 second clip of the event. It is hard to tell. But as I pointed earlier.
The security guard have have been 100% legally right to knock someone on their tail based upon the situations.
Many cities grant permits and rental areas for protest and other purposes that the permit holder can restrict access to and hire private security to handle the security, which can include physical removal of individuals from the permitted area.

So all you folks thinking you are just going to go stomping around where you want and hope the fella in shades and a dress suit knocks you to your ass so you can call Morgan and Morgan. Might want to tread a little lighter if you don't know the full circumstances.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:
Go to Florida and you will see “off duty” officers in uniform working the door at bars and clubs checking IDs. They are paid by the establishment but are there for public safety.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Excuse me, what right does a private security guard have to tell people where they can stand?

Being that we only have a 30 second clip of the event. It is hard to tell. But as I pointed earlier.
The security guard have have been 100% legally right to knock someone on their tail based upon the situations.
Many cities grant permits and rental areas for protest and other purposes that the permit holder can restrict access to and hire private security to handle the security, which can include physical removal of individuals from the permitted area.

So all you folks thinking you are just going to go stomping around where you want and hope the fella in shades and a dress suit knocks you to your ass so you can call Morgan and Morgan. Might want to tread a little lighter if you don't know the full circumstances.

I hear what you're saying, but if I'm simply standing there taking it all in, sans a bullhorn, and not having made 'any' aggressive moves against the person who this clown was hired to protect, he can kiss my lilly white ass if he doesn't like my hat or t-shirt, I'm not going anywhere. And at 6'3" / 230, I'm not being shoved around anywhere by Leroy and his all black ensemble and intimidation efforts. Invade my personal space and/or get in my face, but I'm not moving an inch until a uniformed officer tells me otherwise. Then it becomes a potential legal matter.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by Black92LX:
Go to Florida and you will see “off duty” officers in uniform working the door at bars and clubs checking IDs. They are paid by the establishment but are there for public safety.

Uh, no, that's not how it works for the Orlando Police Department or the Orange County Sheriff's Office, the two biggest agencies in Central Florida. The officers are indeed in uniform and many arrive in a department squad car to do their off-duty gigs, but the establishment most assuredly does not pay the officers. As a matter of fact, that is strictly prohibited. Contracts are signed between the business establishment and the particular agency, and all payments are made to the agency, with the agency paying the officers, of course after taking a piece for itself.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Excuse me, what right does a private security guard have to tell people where they can stand?

Being that we only have a 30 second clip of the event. It is hard to tell. But as I pointed earlier.
The security guard have have been 100% legally right to knock someone on their tail based upon the situations.
Many cities grant permits and rental areas for protest and other purposes that the permit holder can restrict access to and hire private security to handle the security, which can include physical removal of individuals from the permitted area.

So all you folks thinking you are just going to go stomping around where you want and hope the fella in shades and a dress suit knocks you to your ass so you can call Morgan and Morgan. Might want to tread a little lighter if you don't know the full circumstances.

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Summary:

Entitled out of touch "B/C" list actress takes up a cause for publicity and demonstrates hypocrisy

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Originally posted by Bulldog7972:

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Excuse me, what right does a private security guard have to tell people where they can stand?

Being that we only have a 30 second clip of the event. It is hard to tell. But as I pointed earlier.
The security guard have have been 100% legally right to knock someone on their tail based upon the situations.
Many cities grant permits and rental areas for protest and other purposes that the permit holder can restrict access to and hire private security to handle the security, which can include physical removal of individuals from the permitted area.

So all you folks thinking you are just going to go stomping around where you want and hope the fella in shades and a dress suit knocks you to your ass so you can call Morgan and Morgan. Might want to tread a little lighter if you don't know the full circumstances.

Wrong. No one, including the Police have the right to "knock someone on their tail" simply because they refuse to obey them. They can of course inform that person that they are now under arrest for Criminal Trespass if they refuse to leave after he ASK'S them to leave and they refuse but that gives them the right to put the cuffs on them, not "knock them on their tail". And that applies if they are on duty or off duty employed by a private entity.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by Bulldog7972:

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Excuse me, what right does a private security guard have to tell people where they can stand?

Being that we only have a 30 second clip of the event. It is hard to tell. But as I pointed earlier.
The security guard have have been 100% legally right to knock someone on their tail based upon the situations.
Many cities grant permits and rental areas for protest and other purposes that the permit holder can restrict access to and hire private security to handle the security, which can include physical removal of individuals from the permitted area.

So all you folks thinking you are just going to go stomping around where you want and hope the fella in shades and a dress suit knocks you to your ass so you can call Morgan and Morgan. Might want to tread a little lighter if you don't know the full circumstances.

Wrong. No one, including the Police have the right to "knock someone on their tail" simply because they refuse to obey them. They can of course inform that person that they are now under arrest for Criminal Trespass if they refuse to leave after he ASK'S them to leave and they refuse but that gives them the right to put the cuffs on them, not "knock them on their tail". And that applies if they are on duty or off duty employed by a private entity.

An officer and private security in many jurisdictions can you physical force to move people from certain areas before attempting to make a physical arrest. In many of those instance guess where the noncompliant person ends up??

Beyond that Considering most of the folks in here are blathering on and on about not caring what this guy says I am going to guess when the cuffs come out it won’t be sorry Sir, I’ll just turn around now cuff me.
One pull away when the attempt for cuffs to go on no issues with being taken down what so ever.

Not sure about Dallas but there are plenty of jurisdiction where private security can physically handcuff you for not obeying their orders. You want to get silly and sqwak you are not doing yourself any good.

While yes ol girl is being hypocritical I am betting the video poster is being a bit disingenuous as we only have a 30 second clip. I would be willing to be he knows good and well he is in an area that is restricted or he is not to be in the first place.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by Bulldog7972:

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Excuse me, what right does a private security guard have to tell people where they can stand?

Being that we only have a 30 second clip of the event. It is hard to tell. But as I pointed earlier.
The security guard have have been 100% legally right to knock someone on their tail based upon the situations.
Many cities grant permits and rental areas for protest and other purposes that the permit holder can restrict access to and hire private security to handle the security, which can include physical removal of individuals from the permitted area.

So all you folks thinking you are just going to go stomping around where you want and hope the fella in shades and a dress suit knocks you to your ass so you can call Morgan and Morgan. Might want to tread a little lighter if you don't know the full circumstances.

Wrong. No one, including the Police have the right to "knock someone on their tail" simply because they refuse to obey them. They can of course inform that person that they are now under arrest for Criminal Trespass if they refuse to leave after he ASK'S them to leave and they refuse but that gives them the right to put the cuffs on them, not "knock them on their tail". And that applies if they are on duty or off duty employed by a private entity.

An officer and private security in many jurisdictions can you physical force to move people from certain areas before attempting to make a physical arrest. In many of those instance guess where the noncompliant person ends up??

Beyond that Considering most of the folks in here are blathering on and on about not caring what this guy says I am going to guess when the cuffs come out it won’t be sorry Sir, I’ll just turn around now cuff me.
One pull away when the attempt for cuffs to go on no issues with being taken down what so ever.

Not sure about Dallas but there are plenty of jurisdiction where private security can physically handcuff you for not obeying their orders. You want to get silly and sqwak you are not doing yourself any good.

While yes ol girl is being hypocritical I am betting the video poster is being a bit disingenuous as we only have a 30 second clip. I would be willing to be he knows good and well he is in an area that is restricted or he is not to be in the first place.

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Originally posted by ArLEOret:
I am an old geezer so I don’t know who the movie star is. Can some one post a photo so I can look upon her. She can’t be too famous If I never heard of her.

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Originally posted by thunderson:
She was the kid on Who's the Boss.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by thunderson:
She was the kid on Who's the Boss.

She was also the daughter in Commando.

And she's obviously pregnant in that photo above.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
she's obviously pregnant in that photo above.

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Originally posted by synthplayer:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by thunderson:
She was the kid on Who's the Boss.

She was also the daughter in Commando.

And she's obviously pregnant in that photo above.

She may be, but it looks like her thighs, upper arms, and even her hands are all about to give birth. LOL