Is it just me, or does the title and the story make it sound like it's the rifles fault?
https://www.freep.com/story/ne...ning-day/4221957002/

"The trigger went off..."

Was it a Remington 700?

Reading the article, it seems he was putting the rifle in a soft case at home getting ready to leave. Isn't transporting a loaded rifle illegal in Michigan?

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Reading the article, it seems he was putting the rifle in a soft case at home getting ready to leave. Isn't transporting a loaded rifle illegal in Michigan?

Even if it isn't illegal, it is beyond stupid. Thank God, the injuries aren't serious, the boys are only 4 and 6.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Reading the article, it seems he was putting the rifle in a soft case at home getting ready to leave. Isn't transporting a loaded rifle illegal in Michigan?

Yes, unless he had a CCW. Still not smart. I'm not buying the trigger went off either. He either had his finger in the trigger guard when he slid it in the case or it caught on something loose inside. Both his fault.

Maybe it was one of those violent guns that decided to go on a shooting spree.

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Originally posted by Rightwire:

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Reading the article, it seems he was putting the rifle in a soft case at home getting ready to leave. Isn't transporting a loaded rifle illegal in Michigan?

Yes, unless he had a CCW.

It's a CPL in Michigan (which I'm sure you know) and, while a Michigan CPL does allow one to carry a loaded rifle "concealed" in a motor vehicle, Michigan Fish and Game Wardens take a dim view of doing that anywhere near a hunting area.

From the Michigan Department of Natural Resources: Transporting Firearms, Crossbows, and Bows and Arrows page:

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At all times when carried in or on a motor vehicle, including snowmobiles:
. Rifles, shotguns, muzzleloading and other firearms must be unloaded in both barrel and magazine and enclosed in a case or carried in the trunk of a vehicle.
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Exception: These rules do not apply to a pistol carried under authority of a concealed pistol license or properly carried under authority of a specific exception from the requirement of a concealed pistol license.

N.B.: It says pistol.

Betcha dad “didn’t think it was loaded”.

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Originally posted by arfmel:
Betcha dad “didn’t think it was loaded”.

Hope the sons are brighter than the father. what a stupid f'

This message has been edited. Last edited by: Hangtime,

Should list the moron's name and a picture.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by Rightwire:

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Reading the article, it seems he was putting the rifle in a soft case at home getting ready to leave. Isn't transporting a loaded rifle illegal in Michigan?

Yes, unless he had a CCW.

It's a CPL in Michigan (which I'm sure you know) and, while a Michigan CPL does allow one to carry a loaded rifle "concealed" in a motor vehicle, Michigan Fish and Game Wardens take a dim view of doing that anywhere near a hunting area.

From the Michigan Department of Natural Resources: Transporting Firearms, Crossbows, and Bows and Arrows page:

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At all times when carried in or on a motor vehicle, including snowmobiles:
. Rifles, shotguns, muzzleloading and other firearms must be unloaded in both barrel and magazine and enclosed in a case or carried in the trunk of a vehicle.
...
Exception: These rules do not apply to a pistol carried under authority of a concealed pistol license or properly carried under authority of a specific exception from the requirement of a concealed pistol license.

N.B.: It says pistol.

Yes I used CCW as it's more recognizable on the forum and speaking at a higher level given the general question. The article didn't give a lot to support the 'why'

The DNR as noted can be VERY picky about having a loaded long gun in a vehicle in a hunting area. This is primarily to prevent poaching or roadside hunting as well as the obvious safety concerns.

A law suit against the gun's manufacturer to follow.

CCW or CPL, we know what one means.

That’s why one even points an UNLOADED gun in a safe direction.

I deer hunted in MI for 10 years. I've met quite a few fellow hunters and know a few game wardens. I know loaded rifles in any motorized vehicle (ATVs, UTVs, etc.) is a major no-no and a holding a CPL does not change this. I would think every deer hunter in MI would know this. My family's process was to show up with unloaded rifles and ammo in our pockets. When we got to our walk in points, we loaded our rifles. When we left, we unloaded our rifles.

My point was the father's story doesn't make sense on doesn't make sense on the simplest level. Who sticks their loaded rifle in a soft case before they leave? He story sounds like a lie to cover up the truth.

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Originally posted by Hangtime:

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Originally posted by arfmel:
Betcha dad “didn’t think it was loaded”.

Hope the sons are brighter than the father. that a stupid f'

No kidding. You can rest assured he's not teaching his sons proper gun safety that's for sure.

Colorado also has some strict laws prohibiting loaded long guns with rounds in the chamber in vehicles. Despite often complaining about “nanny state” laws, they are ones I can support. I suspect that they are partially responsible for the fact that injuries and deaths in firearms related hunting accidents have declined over the years. That doesn’t mean, however, that some people won’t ignore the laws because they’re convinced they know better and, “It can’t happen to me.”

Long ago I learned that the question, “Who would …?” can usually be answered, “Plenty of people.” Sometimes it’s ignorance or other thoughtlessness, sometimes it’s deliberate, but if it can be done someone will do it.

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Colorado also has some strict laws prohibiting loaded long guns with rounds in the chamber in vehicles. Despite often complaining about “nanny state” laws, they are ones I can support. I suspect that they are partially responsible for the fact that injuries and deaths in firearms related hunting accidents have declined over the years.

I'm with you.
It is just stupid to be getting in and out of a vehicle with a round in the chamber. The same goes for climbing in and out of a deer stand.

Wives go off. Dogs go off. Triggers don’t go off. Be accountable if not to yourself, then to Newtown & his laws of physics.

Just another example of a moron who most likely takes his rusted up POS rifle out of the closet that it's been stored in for the past 11 1/2 months, throws it into a case, goes to the woods, and then comes home and tosses the still loaded aforementioned POS into the closet until next year.