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I'll apologize ahead of time fore all the run-on sentences. There were just too dang many of them for me to be willing to sit down and edit them all out.
Original text at http://www.voanews.com/a/russi...ukraine/4030091.html So are the Russians replacing military leaders who've gotten to be too independent from Moscow, as they've done periodically before? Are they trying to put a more human face on the Donbas leadership to make the pro-Russian side look better in upcoming elections? Or have they simply decided that the whole eastern Ukraine thing is going to fester for a few more decades so they might as well put in stable civilian leadership? Or is this all just some elaborate head-fake? | ||
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This is a man who had his former KGB colleagues blow up four apartment buildings in Moscow to have an excuse to destroy Chechnya; they left Grozny in ruins. He has had major Russian journalists and opposition leaders murdered. So Poroshenko is right, he's not to be trusted. But he is hurting due to sanctions, and this, together with lower oil prices, is making his regime look unsuccessful. There is a presidential election in March 2018. He could dramatically improve his image in advance of the elections by stepping back on his invasion of the Donbas. _________________________ “Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. –Daniel Webster (1782-1852)" | |||
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Peace through strength. Maybe he realizes the present administration isn't going to back down like the last one would and the financial sanctions are hurting Putin and his cronies and causing him political problems at home. Russia is in bad financial shape due to low oil prices and other issues with no end in sight. All this military posturing costs a lot of money that they don't have to spend. They need the Black Sea port and a way to get there by land but the rest is a thorn in their side. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
That's what makes this really interesting. To win (in 2018 in particular), Putin would be best off if he got along with other powers, started bringing more money into Russia, AND kept Crimea. If he can't sustain an effort in Donbas and Luhansk, he might as well cut a deal of some kind regarding those two places. But if he does, then doesn't that just encourage Ukraine and the West to keep pushing him to give up Crimea? | |||
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I think a deal in which Russia would keep Crimea would ba acceptable to the west (not Ukraine) in exchange for ending the separationist movement in "Novorossiya". Khrushchev gifted the Crimea to Ukraine, but historically Russsia has strong ties there. _________________________ “Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. –Daniel Webster (1782-1852)" | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
But then Putin gets Crimea for free, and that would encourage him to go on further adventures of the kind he's indulged in in Georgia and Moldova as well as Ukraine. That's not the way the West really wants to go. | |||
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