What is your true annual cost of the vehicle?
Not including purchase or the cost of electric.

What does it cost per year to keep these things going?
Are they fairly maintenance free are you running into a lot of issues?

Father in law is getting an electric truck.

The Cybertruck is top on his list because Tesla is already fairly established. Also since the Cybertruck will squat and the tail gate go to the ground as a ramp.
He realizes it is ridiculously ugly and does not care.
You appear to get the most bang for your buck with the Tesla. Range is not an issue for him as this is not much of a traveling truck.

Rivian is a close 2nd but a true startup that has not even started yet. On paper the Rivian seems to be the better choice minus towing and payload but he won’t be doing anything anything above the advertised towing and payload of the Rivian.
But everything is strictly just that, on paper.

I realize the Cybertruck is technically just on paper as well but at least it is not their first model and all are really doing is adapting what they already have to a different shell.

I'm interested in this as well as it will likely be the future in some way shape or form.

No help but really got to wonder why someone would want to go that route at this time. So many great gas rigs available.
Maybe in 20 years I could understand it. Now, dumb idea imho.

You’ve opened up a can of worms with the naysayers . Lol

I’m a few months and 4000 miles into my ownership of a Model 3. About $75 in electric for me using teslafi to track.

So far it’s been a gallon of windshield washer fluid

My understanding is tires are the largest expense because they have so much torque. I always get more than rated on my tires so we shall see how my experience is

I have a tri motor cybertruck on preorder figure it will be sometime 2022 the absolute earliest they will be widely available. Austin factory is still under construction as is the capability to widely produce the 4680 battery’s it will be using

I’m with orc. Just went to a get together last night. My buddy spent 10 days up in Vermont skiing and whatnot. 9 hour drive to a beautiful place where there is no way to plug in. How much longer does that simple ski trip take if you are planning your trip not by fastest route but by the route that takes you by super chargers. No thanks. Let someone else pave the way. Or perhaps more prophetically let someone else buy a Betamax. There’s a lot of smart guys who think they have predicted the future of transportation. A lot of betting on the next “guaranteed” breakthrough.

Orc said it right. Let somebody else be the pathfinder. When’s it’s completely viable, and much cheaper, wade on in.

I must be lucky. I own 4 vehicles basically. None of them are driven excessively same as most electrics (range) I surmise. At best I pay for 2 oil, filter change, and tire rotations a year. You still have to rotate tires on an electric. So 2 oil changes at let’s say a hundred a pop which is on the high side obviously. 200 bucks a year typically. The hybrid version of each of my cars, let alone a Tesla, are thousands of dollars more. How long to break even?

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
I’m with orc. Just went to a get together last night. My buddy spent 10 days up in Vermont skiing and whatnot. 9 hour drive to a beautiful place where there is no way to plug in. How much longer does that simple ski trip take if you are planning your trip not by fastest route but by the route that takes you by super chargers. No thanks. Let someone else pave the way. Or perhaps more prophetically let someone else buy a Betamax. There’s a lot of smart guys who think they have predicted the future of transportation. A lot of betting on the next “guaranteed” breakthrough.

Orc said it right. Let somebody else be the pathfinder. When’s it’s completely viable, and much cheaper, wade on in.

I’m pretty certain RV parks are easily available all throughout Vermont. All you need is a 30A plug adapter to get pretty fast charging. An extension cord and the provided 110 charger works (also works with 30A adapter).

Looks like there are plenty of charging stations available in the region

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
No help but really got to wonder why someone would want to go that route at this time. So many great gas rigs available.
Maybe in 20 years I could understand it. Now, dumb idea imho.

Pure novelty.
His Tundra will still be around.

He’s got plenty of life left but he won’t be enjoying life in a truck in 20 years.

He is not in the market for a truck to have a truck he already has one.

He wants an electric toy. And one that he won’t have to hook up a trailer or rig up the ramps to get the kiddos Ranger in the bed is a huge plus.

What’s your point? He drove his Audi up there. Do you think people go to a ski resort to park their car in an RV lot to charge? That’s fun king nonsensical. He stayed with relatives. Unless he strung out an extension cord to the curb he would have to find a spot to charge. And charge probably twice on way home.

I know you guys love EV but you are pretending like there aren’t limitations, real limitations. It’s a second car at best or you must plan on renting for vacations beyond a certain point. That will add to your cost of ownership.

It might be there someday. It’s not there yet. It works great for your commute. It falls short elsewhere. On a truck where I would certainly tow and go longer distances the issue is magnified.

You have to admit, if you put pen to paper a traditional truck makes more sense. Unless you just gotta have the new new.

I’ve never said there aren’t limitations. I know there are. My comment is directed at saying there is no place in 9 hrs to “refuel/ recharge”. You don’t have to use a supercharger. There is also a network of EV owners who will let other EV owners use their personal home chargers in a pinch.

Is charging an EV as easy as pulling up to the corner store, No. but to say one can’t charge one is not looking at all availability and possibility’s. Yes, it took me a bit to look outside the habitual box. Though now that I have the options are plentiful. Just takes a slight change in behavior

This and staying ICE is not the topic of the thread... though every time someone asks an EV question the same replies are given totally off topic. Pretty much by the same people

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
What’s your point? He drove his Audi up there. Do you think people go to a ski resort to park their car in an RV lot to charge? That’s fun king nonsensical. He stayed with relatives. Unless he strung out an extension cord to the curb he would have to find a spot to charge. And charge probably twice on way home.

I know you guys love EV but you are pretending like there aren’t limitations, real limitations. It’s a second car at best or you must plan on renting for vacations beyond a certain point. That will add to your cost of ownership.

It might be there someday. It’s not there yet. It works great for your commute. It falls short elsewhere. On a truck where I would certainly tow and go longer distances the issue is magnified.

You have to admit, if you put pen to paper a traditional truck makes more sense. Unless you just gotta have the new new.

Who is arguing there are no limitations?

Not sure anyone here is arguing or thinking that an purely electric vehicle is a practical only car to own.

Probably should have stated in my original post. This is nothing but a toy purchase.

Will never need a charge outside of the charger he’ll have installed in his barn.

Then yes he should buy it. If it’s a toy who cares about the cost. If it’s for fun, what does practicality matter? Go put the deposit down. It’s his money if that makes him happy who cares about maintenance cost or parts availability or practical usage. As long as it’s plugged in outside his barn why all the questions then?

Maintenance will be less than a gas powered car. Brakes and tires mostly. It’s under warranty so any other issues will be free. Unless it requires parts in which case you will explore Tesla’s poor record of parts availability. So tires and brakes every couple years depending on how you drive. The internet will tell you they are fairly reliable but if you have an issue be prepared to not have your car for an extended amount of time.

I also never said there weren’t places to charge what I said was I plan a trip to vacation on the fastest route. Not the route that has an RV electric outlet. I also just stop when I get down to about a quarter tank, wherever that may be. Go EV and you actually have to plan out your stops. Impossible? No, but to pretend like it isn’t an inconvenience at best is silly. Being an early adapter isn’t for the faint at heart.

This thing is a toy? Get whatever he wants. My point is, if he’s older wants an electric truck won’t do anything that pushes its limitations, why even ask your questions? It doesn’t seem to matter. Besides which you are asking about a vehicle that no one even has. Tesla sure, cybertruck no. Based on previous misses in deliveries when do you think he could take delivery? I would factor that in as well.

What about an F-150 with the hybrid power train?
Much cheaper at least initially then sell it when the cyber truck comes out..

Do you think you will just pull in to an RV park and charge up for free? What if the RV park is full, or closed for the season? How long to charge at 30 amp 120v?

Johnny, rational questions don’t matter when discussing EV in this forum. If it ain’t unicorns and rainbows keep it to yourself. Besides which, all the best RV parks are sitting right next to interstates. That’s where you want to camp right? Right next to I95. Lol

Some folks need to remove the sticks from their ass.

Just because it is a toy does not mean it is not a good idea to do some research.

If you’re going to be an ass and not provide any value just see yourself to another thread.

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Originally posted by smlsig:
What about an F-150 with the hybrid power train?
Much cheaper at least initially then sell it when the cyber truck comes out..

He wants an electric toy that is it and that is all.

Just trying to get some input from folks that have one on what to expect or issues they may be seeing they did not account for.

I’d wait for the Rivian. At least to see how their rollout goes.

What kind of brakes do Teslas have? Electric or hydraulic? I would think brakes pads are still a maintenance item.

You are asking about two trucks that don’t exist yet for the consumer basically. How should anyone answer your questions. It’s like asking sedan owners how they think the reliability of the next generation truck which isn’t available will be based on their car. You want to know cost but not in price or electricity just maintenance. Well for the period of the warranty it will cost you brakes, tires, and apparently washer fluid.

What response do you feel your query will garner? Nobody but Elon has one of these. Of course you are getting nonsensical responses because no one can tell you what maintenance costs or associated reliability will be for a fucking truck that doesn’t exist yet in consumer hands. Might as well ask how reliable the new Ford Bronco is.

The answer for both is buy one and you tell us. Then you can ask us what rims dad should put on.