Stellantis lays off 400 in mass firing last week

March 24, 2024, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by tatortodd:
For example, they've added computer chips to windshields and a damned windshield is $3k, but my 2016 with a dumb windshield is only $400 (I replaced it in 2023). Another example, is they've all gone to water based paint systems that are thin and soft (i.e. scratch easily), but the customer want paint harder than a whore's heart (i.e. hard to scratch) and enough of it to polish out a scratch. It's a fuck the customer business model but they failed to realize that buying a new car is optional.

Exactly!

There's the $3200 taillights on certain F-150 models, too.
The more the automakers are put sparkle and bling into their products, the less "we normal people" want of it, or can afford.

March 24, 2024, 08:23 PM

chellim1

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Then there's the Grand Wagoneer. Growing up people had Wagoneers to tow their boat, haul their dogs, go camping on the weekend. Now it's a luxury SUV that can easily sticker for over $100k. So you went from the affordable, able to beat the shit out of vehicle for people who actually had a need for it to the luxury leather lined SUV that the only off road action it will see is if the trophy wife driving it skips the curb at the Starbuck's drive thru.

You speak the truth. I used to have one.

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March 24, 2024, 08:47 PM

Rightwire

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Originally posted by parabellum:
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Originally posted by BurtonRW:
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Originally posted by parabellum:
Never heard of 'em.
They bought out FCA (Chrysler) a few years back.
They must be doing a bang-up job, then, because I am not kidding when I say that I have never heard of them.

Stellantis owns the following:
Abarth
Alfa Romeo
Chrysler
Citroen
Dodge
DS Automobiles
Fiat
Jeep
Lancia
Mazerati
Opel
Peugeot
Ram
Vaushall
Freewmove
Leasys

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March 24, 2024, 08:54 PM

smschulz

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Originally posted by Rightwire:

Stellantis owns the following:
Abarth
Alfa Romeo
Chrysler
Citroen
Dodge
DS Automobiles
Fiat
Jeep
Lancia
Mazerati
Opel
Peugeot
Ram
Vaushall
Freewmove
Leasys

Cutting the fat with only 400 people over all of these companies doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

March 24, 2024, 08:55 PM

mikeyspizza

I visit a lot of Chrysler Dodge Ram dealerships and every one of them is overflowing with Chargers and Challengers.

March 24, 2024, 09:31 PM

Broadside

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Originally posted by tatortodd:
Another example, is they've all gone to water based paint systems that are thin and soft (i.e. scratch easily), but the customer want paint harder than a whore's heart (i.e. hard to scratch) and enough of it to polish out a scratch. It's a fuck the customer business model but they failed to realize that buying a new car is optional.

In fairness, I think the waterborne paint can be pinned on government mandates.

March 24, 2024, 09:35 PM

Rightwire

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Originally posted by smschulz:

Cutting the fat with only 400 people over all of these companies doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

It appears most of those cuts were here in the US. A lot of that would be in this area as this is where the Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep HQ facility is so that IS a lot.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/2...ried-us-workers.html

March 24, 2024, 11:20 PM

Rey HRH

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Originally posted by smschulz:

Cutting the fat with only 400 people over all of these companies doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

That was my thought as well, 400 for an auto company doesn’t sound like a lot from a big picture. And being that the 400 were told to stay home for an online meeting tells me these were office positions. I wonder how many were DEI positions.

But is this an indicator? I’ve been expecting a recession back in 2023.

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March 25, 2024, 07:45 AM

whododat

I had a 2019 Ram 1500 that could not run correctly if even if I was pushing it. I had to get rid of it and continued to receive the "Return to dealer immediately for service" alert on my phone for months after it was gone. Never again Ram, Chrysler or whatever your name is now.

March 25, 2024, 07:57 AM

Shaql

There are several youtubers who have been walking around the lots and seeing a lot of inventory on expensive vehicles. Pickup inventory seems to be at an all-time high right now because they're all optioned up with additional dealer options as well. Pickups are extremely overpriced right now. However, Toyota seems to be the exception to the rule.

As it was noted in my jeep thread, Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge is heavily discounting all their vehicles right now trying to get inventory moving.

March 25, 2024, 09:01 AM

smschulz

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Originally posted by Rey HRH:

But is this an indicator? I’ve been expecting a recession back in 2023.

Not of anything universal but could be that inflation has pegged out the auto industry and high inventories are evidence of that.
At least a correction in this industry is long overdue.
Car prices are insane.

March 25, 2024, 09:12 AM

6guns

I said it earlier in this thread and I'll say it again, the unions have made this situation even worse. People can't afford the prices the companies have to charge.

March 25, 2024, 04:19 PM

patw

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Originally posted by mikeyspizza:
I visit a lot of Chrysler Dodge Ram dealerships and every one of them is overflowing with Chargers and Challengers.

My son just bought a new Challenger and the rebates now are insane-great if you are a consumer. I was able to set up his account for payments and the telephone operator could barely speak English. I had to ask him to repeat things many times. I wonder how many jobs now are South of the border.

March 25, 2024, 10:33 PM

1s1k

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Originally posted by mikeyspizza:
I visit a lot of Chrysler Dodge Ram dealerships and every one of them is overflowing with Chargers and Challengers.

Stellantis is particularly responsible by cranking up their prices more than anyone in the industry in the last 5 years. Then the dealerships are responsible for the rest because they have been gouging the customer since everyone knows the Hemi will no longer be available in the cars.

March 26, 2024, 05:57 AM

Veeper

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Meaningless corporate speak like that ought to get you tossed into an active volcano.

My company/industry would look like Arnold with a mini-gun, the idiot lobbing would be so furious.

It would be amazing.