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Ft Carson: "A Muslim soldier says her CSM forced her to remove her hijab" UPDATED March 23

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March 24, 2019, 10:59 AM
ensigmatic
Ft Carson: "A Muslim soldier says her CSM forced her to remove her hijab" UPDATED March 23
I had a young man working for me, for the last year or so before I retired, that had just transitioned from Active Army to Active Reserves. In the time I worked with him it became quite clear to me the U.S. Army of today is not much like the U.S. Army I knew.

No offence towards those serving, but I don't think I'd much care to be in today's Army. Or any branch of the U.S. military, near as I can tell.



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March 24, 2019, 11:30 AM
trapper189
She should be allowed to continue honing her culinary skills and introduced to the finer art of peeling. Potatoes, carrots, apples, etc. For the rest of her time.
March 24, 2019, 01:06 PM
Edmond
quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
So now she wants a transfer....hmmmmm.....

Maybe they can accommodate her by shipping her to Ice Station Zebra, or some such isolated cold dark place.


Nah, there's a place even worse...

Ft. Polk.


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March 24, 2019, 01:08 PM
Edmond
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
No offence towards those serving, but I don't think I'd much care to be in today's Army. Or any branch of the U.S. military, near as I can tell.


You'd hate it.

Today it's all about classes and briefs about sexual harassment, EO, suicide prevention, etc. It's lots of politics now.

Treat Soldiers like children and you're surprised they act like children? Confused


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March 24, 2019, 03:51 PM
flashguy
"Muslim soldier"? There's the problem right there.

flashguy




Texan by choice, not accident of birth
March 24, 2019, 03:57 PM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
"Muslim soldier"? There's the problem right there.

flashguy

I've been trying to think of a way to express my thoughts on this topic. You nailed it.

My suggestion is to send her through airborne school and upon graduation, put her on the next C130 scheduled to overfly Syria and kick her ass out the back door. I'm quite sure that she'll find plenty of fellow muslims who will empathize with her there.


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March 24, 2019, 07:05 PM
RNshooter
1) Comply with uniform regulations.
2) Follow orders.
3) Defend your country.
4) Thank you.

Muslim, Sikh, Jew, Druid, who cares?
See the above list.

My .02

Bruce






"The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams

“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli

The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken
March 24, 2019, 07:25 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by RNshooter:
1) Comply with uniform regulations.
2) Follow orders.
3) Defend your country.
4) Thank you.

Muslim, Sikh, Jew, Druid, who cares?
See the above list.


Bingo.
March 25, 2019, 09:02 AM
Sig2340
quote:
Originally posted by Edmond:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
So now she wants a transfer....hmmmmm.....

Maybe they can accommodate her by shipping her to Ice Station Zebra, or some such isolated cold dark place.


Nah, there's a place even worse...

Ft. Polk.


Polk? That would violate the Eighth Amendment.





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Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
March 25, 2019, 09:44 AM
nhtagmember
get rid of her

problem solved



[B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC


March 25, 2019, 02:05 PM
slabsides45
quote:
Originally posted by Edmond:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
So now she wants a transfer....hmmmmm.....

Maybe they can accommodate her by shipping her to Ice Station Zebra, or some such isolated cold dark place.


Nah, there's a place even worse...

Ft. Polk.


Dang man, what'd the cajuns ever do to you to deserve that?


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March 25, 2019, 03:42 PM
flashguy
quote:
Originally posted by RNshooter:
1) Comply with uniform regulations.
2) Follow orders.
3) Defend your country.
4) Thank you.

Muslim, Sikh, Jew, Druid, who cares?
See the above list.

My .02

Bruce
Sikhs, Jews, and Druids do not follow a "religion" that advocates destruction of Western civilization in general, and the US in specific.

flashguy




Texan by choice, not accident of birth
March 25, 2019, 04:31 PM
Aquabird
Wow, what if they make all the male soldiers start pulling their pants up to cover their butts. what then?


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March 25, 2019, 09:55 PM
TigerDore
Take the hijab from your hair
Shake it loose and let it fall
Lay it soft against my skin
Like the shadows on the wall...



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March 26, 2019, 12:32 PM
RNshooter
quote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
quote:
Originally posted by RNshooter:
1) Comply with uniform regulations.
2) Follow orders.
3) Defend your country.
4) Thank you.

Muslim, Sikh, Jew, Druid, who cares?
See the above list.

My .02

Bruce
Sikhs, Jews, and Druids do not follow a "religion" that advocates destruction of Western civilization in general, and the US in specific.

flashguy


There is a radical faction of Islam that wishes to destroy us. We are doing a good job of wiping them out. They are not the mainstream.

Equating those nutcases with all of Islam is about as fair as pointing to Westboro Baptist Church as representative of all Christians.

That wouldn't make sense.

Bruce






"The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams

“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli

The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken
March 26, 2019, 12:45 PM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by RNshooter:

There is a radical faction of Islam that wishes to destroy us. We are doing a good job of wiping them out. They are not the mainstream.

Equating those nutcases with all of Islam is about as fair as pointing to Westboro Baptist Church as representative of all Christians.

That wouldn't make sense.

Bruce

I respectfully disagree. A study of the Quran and a study of the life of Mohammed would indicate that the "radicals" are following the example of their founder very closely. Westboro Baptist members don't even come close to following the life and example of Jesus Christ. In other words, people like Bin Laden are hardcore Islamic followers. People like Mother Teresa are hardcore followers of Jesus Christ.



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March 26, 2019, 01:01 PM
RNshooter
I don't recall Mother Theresa stoning anyone for breaking the Sabbath. She followed her own version of Christianity based on her interpretation of the Bible.
Following the exact letter of the law with any ancient religion just isn't done by any sane person. We interpret the text using our reason and then pick and choose.

Most Muslims are about as dogmatic as your average Episcopalian. Episcopalians aren't pushing for a new Crusade just like the average middle class Muslim isn't looking for Jihad.

Don't paint a billion and a half people with such a broad brush. There are some individuals in there.

Bruce






"The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams

“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli

The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken
March 26, 2019, 01:58 PM
nhtagmember
I learned everything I need to know about Islam and Muslims on 9/11 and NOTHING I have seen in the past 18 years has changed my opinion

I can't tell the difference between good and bad so I assume that given their 'religion' they're all bad

if thats 1.5 billion I really don't care - it might as well be 150,000

numbers are irrelevant

actions speak loudly - and I don't see them parading in the streets calling for an end of violence

they are what they are and that is the enemy of the US



[B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC


March 26, 2019, 03:48 PM
flashguy
Christianity is based on the teaching of Jesus Christ, and He authorized setting aside some of the Laws of Judaism (as the Son of God He could do that). Mother Theresa, as a good Christian, was following Jesus, who superceded Judaic Law.

IMO, until the Moslems have their own version of Jesus to come and modify/civilize what Mohammed wrote, their religion is anathema to civilization.

flashguy




Texan by choice, not accident of birth
March 26, 2019, 03:59 PM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by RNshooter:
I don't recall Mother Theresa stoning anyone for breaking the Sabbath.Bruce

Neither did Jesus. In fact, he defied the Sabbath law to heal a man. You are referencing Old Testament law, not the new Covenant of Jesus Christ. That's an extraordinarily ignorant statement.

Regarding Islam, you are making feel good platitudes while showing as much knowledge about the life and example of Mohammed as you have about the life of Jesus Christ.



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