Dumb question, I keep hearing more and more about impeachment. Have they figured out what they were going to accuse him of? I am pretty sure Orange Man Bad is not an impeachable offense.
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis
May 30, 2019, 10:34 AM
Veeper
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Originally posted by Skins2881: Dumb question, I keep hearing more and more about impeachment. Have they figured out what they were going to accuse him of? I am pretty sure Orange Man Bad is not an impeachable offense.
Well, I think the list of impeachable offenses that may or may not have merit have been:
1. Grab 'em by the pussy comment 2. Russia collusion 3. Porn star payout 4. Obstruction <----- YOU ARE HERE
The obstruction thing is funny because it's all based on the "Can you get rid of him?" comment/question to his lawyer, which is based on an investigation based on false information and entrapment.
So.
We'll see where this goes I guess.
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”—H.L. Mencken
May 30, 2019, 10:37 AM
Ackks
Now an obvious typo in a tweet is an admission that Russia got him elected. Freaking lunacy.
May 30, 2019, 10:39 AM
HighZonie
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Originally posted by PASig: I want these crazy Democrats to go full steam ahead on impeachment now:
1. It takes their focus off actually winning 2020 with a viable candidate
2. It will energize the Trump base like you've never seen before AND bring a lot of sympathetic people on board who see this as what it really is: punishment for beating Hillary in 2016
3. It makes the Democrats look completely insane and not reasonable
4. The Senate will shut down any impeachment proceeding quick even if the House goes full-tilt on it.
5. It will result in a huge landslide win for Trump in 2020, making Reagan vs Mondale look like a walk in the park.
6. In response to the insane call of impeachment a perfect door will be open to Republicans for highlighting the actual evidence - - - that the real collusion was between the Democratic deep state [Executive Branch, FBI, CIA, Fake News ] with Foreign Intelligence operators, Russia, Ukraine and .....who knows who else.
All this will be very beneficial for the education of the electorate.
*********************** * Diligentia Vis Celeritis * *********************** "Thus those skilled in war subdue the enemy's army without battle .... They conquer by strategy." - Sun Tsu - The Art of War
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May 30, 2019, 10:47 AM
nhtagmember
the country needs to see people held accountable and pay the price,especially if it means trying them on sedition and attempting a coup
we are supposed to be a nation of laws, and if those laws have become perverted, then they're meaningless
personally I need to see people in handcuffs and in prison - don't know about you
the democrats lost the election, the will of the people
what they are saying is that it doesn't matter that we won, it doesn't matter how we voted, we just don't count because we're conservatives
that is not the right answer, and the people that fostered this idea need to be punished harshly and in public as a warning to future dictators
[B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC
May 30, 2019, 11:23 AM
Skins2881
Sound is horrible, but listen to the end, there's a little nugget.
Mueller's show yesterday has triggered a bunch of people.
Fox News Brett Baier:
“But, to hear Robert Mueller say it today, it was much more dialed back. It was much more insufficient evidence to make a case on the broader conspiracy. That is not “no American colluded with the Russians.”
Brett should read the report.
Here are direct quotes from the Mueller report, Vol I page 2
so it takes "substantial, credible evidence" to establish something
also from page 2:
which means Mueller did not have substantial credible evidence of any Trump Campaign conspiracy.
There may have been some news stories planted by Fusion GPS or Steele. Even the dossier. But nothing credible.
May 30, 2019, 12:56 PM
PASig
quote:
Originally posted by Veeper:
1. Grab 'em by the pussy comment 2. Russia collusion 3. Porn star payout 4. Obstruction <----- YOU ARE HERE
1. Not a high crime or misdemeanor. Also happened long before he was in office. 2. Already proven to be bullshit and false 3. At most a fine by the FEC, again happened before he was in office. Impeachment is for "high crimes and misdemeanors" WHILE IN OFFICE 4. Already proven to be false
Democrats can't impeach the man for being mean to them, or for his crime of beating their precious Hillary no matter how much they want to.
Originally posted by PASig: Democrats can't impeach the man for being mean to them
Sure they can.
It is nothing more than a simple majority vote.
Of course, it will go nowhere, but they could most certainly impeach him.
Then, we'll have the first American President re-elected after being impeached.
No Bill Clinton was the first, but he was actually guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors.
May 30, 2019, 10:40 PM
chellim1
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Then, we'll have the first American President re-elected after being impeached.
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No Bill Clinton was the first, but he was actually guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors.
No... Gustofer is correct.
The impeachment of Bill Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States, was initiated in December 1998 by the House of Representatives and Clinton was subsequently acquitted of these charges by the Senate on February 12, 1999. He was NOT re-elected after being impeached. Bush 43 was elected in 2000.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
May 30, 2019, 11:04 PM
HighZonie
Trump: 'I had nothing to do with Russia helping me get elected' BY KYLE BALLUCK AND TAL AXELROD - 05/30/19 07:29 AM EDT
.......“After spending $40,000,000 over two dark years, with unlimited access, people, resources and cooperation, highly conflicted Robert Mueller would have brought charges, if he had ANYTHING, but there were no charges to bring!” he said in his first tweet of the morning." .......
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*********************** * Diligentia Vis Celeritis * *********************** "Thus those skilled in war subdue the enemy's army without battle .... They conquer by strategy." - Sun Tsu - The Art of War
"Fast is Fine, but Accuracy is Everything" - Wyatt Earp
May 31, 2019, 02:01 AM
flashguy
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Originally posted by darthfuster: We the people build the wall...
Well, that has been stopped by a judge (hopefully only temporarily).
flashguy
Texan by choice, not accident of birth
May 31, 2019, 05:17 AM
spunk639
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Originally posted by chellim1:
quote:
Then, we'll have the first American President re-elected after being impeached.
quote:
No Bill Clinton was the first, but he was actually guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors.
No... Gustofer is correct.
The impeachment of Bill Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States, was initiated in December 1998 by the House of Representatives and Clinton was subsequently acquitted of these charges by the Senate on February 12, 1999. He was NOT re-elected after being impeached. Bush 43 was elected in 2000.
My bad had history wrong thought he was impeached in 96.
May 31, 2019, 06:21 AM
HighZonie
North Korea executes 5 officials over failed Kim-Trump summit: South Korean media
*********************** * Diligentia Vis Celeritis * *********************** "Thus those skilled in war subdue the enemy's army without battle .... They conquer by strategy." - Sun Tsu - The Art of War
"Fast is Fine, but Accuracy is Everything" - Wyatt Earp
"I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023
May 31, 2019, 08:20 AM
chellim1
^^^ Yep.
“And here comes in the question whether it is better to be loved rather than feared, or feared rather than loved. It might perhaps be answered that we should wish to be both; but since love and fear can hardly exist together, if we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved.”
“it is much safer to be feared than loved because ...love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails.”
― Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
