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I wonder how much (if any) of that was the legitimate depreciation deduction. $100,000,000 a year may not be that far out of the realm or normal for property worth billions. | |||
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Yep. I told my wife today I'm quitting our trash company today due to Trump. She said ??? I replied we haven't had regular trash service in months and they were four days late when they picked up our trash today. I said why? Because no one wants to pick up trash when they can get a better job. Too many vacancies right now. Subtract the natural unemployment rate, and businesses are hurting trying to find employees. Thanks Trump for ruining my trash company. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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I have to wonder, is this what most middle of the road, intelligent people have to deal with every day? I get maybe you don't like Trump, but seriously how can people pass on the BS? How does anyone with three brain cells in their noggin explain to the morons that the crap they've been feed is fantasy? Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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I live behind enemy lines in Cali, and the video is pretty accurate. I now understand why so many persons are easily manipulated. -c1steve | |||
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Be not wise in thine own eyes |
Oh, it’s OK if they had legal access. What about legal authority to release the tax returns? “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
What if he were already in jail? Seriously, this has Michael Cohen written all over it. He checks into prison and then a few days later the NYTIMES prints this information? Yeah, I'm sure it's only a coincidence. Maybe they should take him out of that cushy country club prison and stick him in a medium "get pounded in the butthole" security prison and see how he likes that.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Balzé Halzé, ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Be prepared for loud noise and recoil |
I could not care less about Trump's tax returns. I do care that this is another desperate grasping at straws by the Dem's and the media, and it will be another giant nothing. ETA: Trump may have lost money as a Developer. His true calling was to be President. He's just a late bloomer “Crisis is the rallying cry of the tyrant.” – James Madison "Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." - Robert Louis Stevenson | |||
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I don't either, I cannot fathom what the communists think they're going to get out of tax returns. All of us have financial gains and losses, President Trump is no different. I think they're trying to make a single billionaire look stupid and it will backfire on them again. | |||
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Same situation here. Just like on this board, when it comes to liberty, freedom, and economics communists cannot be reasoned with. | |||
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Yeah, that M14 video guy... |
So over 20-30 years ago he declared a loss over his properties in order to pay less taxes. Sounds like something perfectly legal and something I would have done too. And how is this earth shattering? Tony. Owner, TonyBen, LLC, Type-07 FFL www.tonybenm14.com (Site under construction). e-mail: tonyben@tonybenm14.com | |||
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Yew got a spider on yo head |
Orange man bad! | |||
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can you imagine how pissed the left would be if after all this crap, they find that President Trump is due a refund? [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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Unflappable Enginerd |
And yet no one has seen BHO's college transcripts or admission information, hmmm. __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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..and he uses it on funding the wall. | |||
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Muzzle flash aficionado |
SCOTUS has ruled that the First Amendment protects news agencies that release prohibited material IF THEY DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN OBTAINING IT FROM THE ORIGINAL SOURCE. That means they can publish anything that someone else gives to them, without fear of punishment. (And, of course, they also are permitted to protect the names of who gave them the information, so they cannot be punished.) I think the proper response by President Trump should simply be "Oh, yes? Prove that those are my tax returns, and not some documents that you have created instead." I don't think "proof" could be given without releasing the sources. Oh--and if the House votes to put AG Barr in Contempt of Congress, he should just respond "Good--I have a lot of contempt for you." flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Oh yeah, and about the NYTIMES bombshell article on President Trump's taxes and debt in the late 80s... New York Times story on Trump's billion-dollar tax write off was told by Trump 15 years ago on 'The Apprentice' by Eddie Scarry May 08, 2019 09:29 AM The New York Times led readers to believe it had blown the lid off of President Trump’s massive business failures with its very long report Tuesday night, detailing his $1.17 billion loss between 1985 and 1994. But the story has been told before, by Trump himself, on NBC’s “The Apprentice.” On Jan. 8, 2004, at the top of the show’s very first episode, Trump laid out a summarized version of the same story about himself that the Times so proudly ran Tuesday. Here’s a side by side of what Trump said in the monologue in 2004 with what the Times report said 15 years later. Trump, 2004: “It wasn’t always so easy. About 13 years ago, I was seriously in trouble. I was billions of dollars in debt.” Times, 2019: “The numbers show that in 1985, Mr. Trump reported losses of $46.1 million from his core businesses — largely casinos, hotels and retail space in apartment buildings. They continued to lose money every year, totaling $1.17 billion in losses for the decade.” Trump, 2004: “But I fought back and I won big league. I used my brain. I used my negotiating skills. And I worked it all out.” Times, 2019: “Mr. Trump’s 2005 returns … showed that by then he had significant sources of income and was paying taxes.” Trump, 2004: “Now my company’s bigger than it ever was, stronger than it ever was and I’m having more fun than I ever had. I’ve mastered the art of the deal and I’ve turned the name Trump into the highest quality brand.” Times, 2019: “Mr. Trump built a business licensing his name, became a television celebrity and ran for the White House by branding himself a self-made billionaire. Anyone interested in the specifics of how Trump blew through hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and credit loans, or how he sunk bad dollar after bad dollar in failing projects can learn a lot from Trump’s 35-year-old tax information, though history suggests there’s little appetite for it. The Times certainly had a big Trump story on Tuesday. It’s just that Trump had already told it 15 years ago. https://www.washingtonexaminer...go-on-the-apprentice ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Be not wise in thine own eyes |
Good point flashguy. Turns out President Trump was hiding the story of his financial problems in this book. “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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All this baloney about Trump's taxes is totally irrelevant unless they can find something significant that is unquestionably illegal. Even then, it would have no relevance to the Muller probe, Russian collusion, or any of the issues which are being looked at now. It is simply more of the $h*t they are desperately throwing at the wall hoping some will stick and distract from revelations being brought forth on the actual illegal collusion by the deep state attempting to coup the Trump administration. (sorry about the long sentence) *********************** * Diligentia Vis Celeritis * *********************** "Thus those skilled in war subdue the enemy's army without battle .... They conquer by strategy." - Sun Tsu - The Art of War "Fast is Fine, but Accuracy is Everything" - Wyatt Earp | |||
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From John Solomon writing for The Hill: Steele's stunning pre-FISA confession: Informant needed to air Trump dirt before election Note: this document classified as secret by FBI on April 25, 2019 An excerpt:
More at the Link _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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Before they knew he was a republican, the NY Times lionized Trump in 1995 for his huge comeback. The Comeback King! https://www.nytimes.com/1995/1...e-comeback-king.html October 25, 1995, Page 00004Buy Reprints The New York Times Archives Though there are still four years to go in the 90's, business and government leaders in New York honored Donald J. Trump yesterday for pulling off what they called "the comeback of the decade." Mr. Trump, the developer who came to epitomize opulent wealth during the 80's before tumbling into deep financial trouble, has managed to erase much of his debt and is moving ahead with major projects at a time other developers are idling. Judging from the attention showered on him yesterday at the Union League Club, some of New York's civic and business leaders are quite captivated by Mr. Trump, despite the financial uncertainties that still surround some of his properties. But the operative word at the luncheon was comeback, though Mr. Trump might dispute that he ever went far away. William D. Fugazy, the limousine magnate and chairman of the Forum Club, the group of business and civic leaders that sponsored the luncheon, presented Mr. Trump with a boomerang encased in glass. "You throw it and it always comes back," he said as he handed it over. In a flattering speech, Lieut. Gov. Betsy McCaughey called Mr. Trump "the comeback kid." Charles A. Gargano, who as chairman of the Empire State Development Corporation is himself considered one of the new powers of the state, joked about a Perot-Trump presidential ticket. "He would be the most loved Vice President since Spiro T. Agnew," he said. Mr. Gargano, who heads the state's economic development efforts, added, "Thank you for your tax dollars." After the collapse of the real estate market of the 1980's, Mr. Trump's company was left holding some $8.8 billion in debt, causing his personal net worth to drop to a low of about $1 billion in the red by 1991. But since then, his fortunes have changed. He continues to pursue the trademark trophy-style projects he is known for, such as a hotel and condominium project on the southwest corner of Central Park that is expected to open by late 1996. Indeed, about an hour before the luncheon, Mr. Trump and representatives from a Hong Kong development firm huddled over drawings and models for their planned Riverside South development, a 17-building project at the site of the old Pennsylvania Railroad yard on the West Side. In addition to his real estate ventures, revenues are strong throughout the casino business, where Mr. Trump is one of the most noteworthy operators, owning three gaming establishments in Atlantic City. "The market is quite vibrant," said N. Bruce Turner, a gaming analyst at Solomon Brothers. "It has lifted Donald Trump's vibrancy. Has he come back along with the market? No question." To be sure, for all his latest achievements, Mr. Trump is still somewhat at the mercy of the various lenders who granted him concessions on his debt. Also, he has recently proposed another refinancing of his Taj Mahal Casino in Atlantic City, which has never lived up to the huge profits that he predicted. But at Tuesday's luncheon, with his family by his side, Mr. Trump was in full form, gracefully taking in all the praise, like a preacher gathering up Sunday's collections. For the guests, who included Police Commissioner William J. Bratton, Manhattan District Attorney Robert M. Morgenthau, and the developers Lewis Rudin and Peter Kalikow, he recalled how in 1991, the world was far different. Outside the room, he proclaimed with no shortness of his characteristic hyperbole, "I'm the biggest in real estate in New York, and I'm the biggest in the gaming industry." . | |||
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