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The Trump Presidency : Year III

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November 13, 2019, 09:36 AM
c1steve
The Trump Presidency : Year III
The Dems are turning their part of the government into a USSR system as fast as possible. Control the media, control the people. Sham trials, etc.

In the end I suspect this may be the undoing of their own power. Next election cycle I am hoping for their candidates to lose big time.


-c1steve
November 13, 2019, 10:00 AM
chellim1
In response to a Jim Jordan question I heard Adam Schiff deny knowing the identity of the "whistleblower".
It was clearly another lie by Adam Schiff.

Schiff Warns GOP: Name Whistleblower In Public Hearings, And Face Possible Ethics Probe

Rep. Adam Schiff suggested Monday that any lawmaker who identifies the alleged Trump whistleblower during public congressional hearings could be subject to a House ethics investigation.

Schiff made the thinly-veiled threat in a memo laying out the procedures for testimony that begins this week in the impeachment investigation of President Donald Trump.

Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, referred to federal laws that protect intelligence community whistleblowers from “reprisal or the threat of reprisal.” He then cited the Committee on Ethics, which investigates lawmakers’ abuse of office.

“The Committee has a long, proud, and bipartisan history of protecting whistleblowers—including from efforts to threaten, intimidate, retaliate against, or undermine the confidentiality of whistleblowers,” Schiff wrote.

Despite the threats, Schiff and his fellow Democrats published a transcript from an Oct. 22 deposition with Bill Taylor, the acting ambassador to Ukraine, that included the name of the CIA analyst who is widely rumored to be the whistleblower. A Republican lawmaker asked Taylor if he knew the individual, but the diplomat said he did not.

On Sunday, Schiff rejected Rep. Devin Nunes’ request to call the whistleblower to testify publicly about his complaint against Trump. Nunes, who is the top Republican on the intelligence panel, also called on Schiff to testify in a closed-door deposition about his office’s contact with the whistleblower.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/1...icans-whistleblower/



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
November 13, 2019, 10:14 AM
PASig
I love how the Republicans got away with these signs, but I'm sure the MSM will studiously avoid showing them in any shot most people will see:




November 13, 2019, 10:29 AM
Skins2881
Cool. ^^^^^

[Presses like button]



Jesse

Sic Semper Tyrannis
November 13, 2019, 10:41 AM
Balzé Halzé
Nunes was great in his opening statement.

And yup, watch "Bribery" to be the new word of the day.


~Alan

Acta Non Verba
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God, Family, Guns, Country

Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan

November 13, 2019, 10:55 AM
Pipe Smoker
PIERS MORGAN: Democrats shouldn't start battle they can't win

“There have been many great generals in the annals of history, often with very different ideas of exactly how to wage war. But there is one common principle that links them all.

‘If a battle can’t be won, don’t fight it,’ cautioned Sun Tzu, the revered Chinese warrior from 544-496 BC whose tactical treatise 'The Art of War' is now considered a masterpiece.

‘Don’t fight a battle if you don’t gain anything by winning,’ agreed Erwin Rommel, the Nazis’ most successful general in World War 2.

The same principle applies to political conflict.

‘Choose your battles wisely,’ said Frank Underwood in House of Cards, ‘do not start a war you know you’re gonna lose.’

It should be a fairly obvious mantra, yet it’s one that is ignored time and again by those who should know better as ego and hubris displace common sense.

This brings me neatly to the commencement of today’s public impeachment hearings in the House of Representatives…”

https://mol.im/a/7681157



Don’t argue with fools.
November 13, 2019, 10:57 AM
cne32507
Taylor's testimony is problematic. Says 1st WH meeting held up 2nd security funds held up until public announcement that Biden would be investigated.
November 13, 2019, 11:08 AM
PASig
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:


And yup, watch "Bribery" to be the new word of the day.


I find it hilarious to see the Democrats careen from one thing to another in the desperate hopes of finding something, anything that can stick and take this POTUS down.

COLLUSION! no?

ok...RUSSIA!

umm...EMOLUMENTS!

no it's...QUID PRO QUO!

no, really...BRIBERY! That's the ticket!

Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin


November 13, 2019, 11:09 AM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by cne32507:
Taylor's testimony is problematic. Says 1st WH meeting held up 2nd security funds held up until public announcement that Biden would be investigated.


BFD.


~Alan

Acta Non Verba
NRA Life Member (Patron)
God, Family, Guns, Country

Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan

November 13, 2019, 11:17 AM
BurtonRW
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by cne32507:
Taylor's testimony is problematic. Says 1st WH meeting held up 2nd security funds held up until public announcement that Biden would be investigated.


BFD.


Don't give them the narrative. Investigating actual corruption by Biden is not a crime regardless of whether he's a political opponent.

Leveraging foreign aid to get foreign governments to do what we want them to is WHY we pay foreign aid. Call it extortion, bribery, or foreign relations - it's not a crime.

-Rob




I predict that there will be many suggestions and statements about the law made here, and some of them will be spectacularly wrong. - jhe888

A=A
November 13, 2019, 11:23 AM
MikeinNC
Side note.....

RBG didnt make it to Court today to hear arguments.

they say she is home with a "stomach bug"



"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein

“You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020

“A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker
November 13, 2019, 11:30 AM
PASig



November 13, 2019, 12:12 PM
BamaJeepster
My opinion of this circus sideshow, stated eloquently by Dave Burge:





“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
- John Adams
November 13, 2019, 12:15 PM
chellim1
^ Dave Burge is hilarious. Big Grin



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
November 13, 2019, 12:24 PM
Doc H.
Columbo is on the case....



"And gentlemen in England now abed, shall think themselves accursed they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon Saint Crispin's Day"
November 13, 2019, 12:43 PM
gw3971
Jim Jordan is a bulldog!
November 13, 2019, 12:49 PM
parabellum
I'm not watching a single second of it live. I'm severely allergic to bullshit. I'll catch the highlights this evening. Anyone with any brains knows that the whole thing is a criminal farce. I refuse to sit and watch this con job. This is an insult to Americans and the Constitution.
November 13, 2019, 12:54 PM
Balzé Halzé
Here it is. The big headline on CNN. This is the big, rocking testimony from today that's going to take down Trump:

Diplomat testifies Trump cared more about investigations of Biden than Ukraine

Roll Eyes

What a bunch a pathetic losers. Seriously.


~Alan

Acta Non Verba
NRA Life Member (Patron)
God, Family, Guns, Country

Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan

November 13, 2019, 12:57 PM
Ackks
Para is going to take a nap and go with Vinny Gambini's opening statement Wink
November 13, 2019, 12:58 PM
chellim1
quote:
In response to a Jim Jordan question I heard Adam Schiff deny knowing the identity of the "whistleblower".
It was clearly another lie by Adam Schiff.

Here's more on what I mentioned at the outset this morning:

WATCH: Adam Schiff Makes Questionable Claim About Ukraine Whistleblower

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA) made a highly suspect claim about the CIA whistleblower on Wednesday during House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry hearing. Schiff asserted that he did not know the identity of the whistleblower.

“You are the only member [of Congress] who knows who that individual is and your staff is the only staff of any member of Congress that has had that chance to talk with that individual,” Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) said to Schiff. “We would like opportunity. When might that happen in this proceeding today?”

“That’s a false statement, I do not know the identity of the whistleblower,” Schiff responded.

WATCH:



https://www.dailywire.com/news...kraine-whistleblower

https://legalinsurrection.com/...f-the-whistleblower/

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"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor