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The Trump Presidency : Year III

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October 20, 2019, 10:51 AM
erj_pilot
The Trump Presidency : Year III
I think President Trump figures out a way to absolutely PUNK these Leftist retards on a daily basis. I envision him laughing his ass off every morning over his Egg McMuffin, hash browns, and medium coffee... Big Grin



"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
October 20, 2019, 09:00 PM
wcb6092



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October 20, 2019, 09:57 PM
parabellum
In this evening's addition of 'utterly clueless'


October 20, 2019, 10:18 PM
EZ_B
Angelo Codevilla: Who the Hell Do They Think They Are?

With William McRaven’s call to oust President Trump—maybe through impeachment, maybe through a coup—the military officer class joins the establishment in claiming a right to rule, regardless of the outcome of elections.

Retired Admiral William McRaven devoted the bulk of a New York Times op-ed to appropriating for himself the moral and hence political authority of generations of soldiers and sailors (pointedly, especially the female ones) who have sacrificed for America, for “the good and the right.” Then he gratuitously stated—citing no specifics, as if everyone already knows—that “President Trump seems to believe that all these qualities are unimportant or show weakness.”

McRaven concludes, “it is time for a new person in the Oval Office—Republican, Democrat or independent—the sooner, the better.” At the very least, McRaven called for impeachment ahead of an election, or perhaps for a coup, and pretended to do so on the military’s behalf. In fact, his was just one more voice from an establishment that has squandered the public’s trust, senses that it can no longer win elections honestly, and is pulling out all the stops.

It pretends to be trying to take down Donald Trump. In fact, it is trying to do something much bigger: Invalidate the votes of the “deplorables” who oppose them.

I suggest that the just response from self-respecting Americans to McRaven and others like him is: “Who the hell do you think you are?”

Consider the enormity of pretending to speak for past and present uniformed personnel. Given that the overwhelming majority of active-duty and retired armed service members voted for Trump in 2016, and that polls show they are likely to do so again, it’s a patent falsehood to insinuate the rank-and-file’s notion of “the good and the right” matches McRaven’s own.

Then consider a few of these notions of “good and right.” Following rules and the chain of command is high among them, especially for the military. Officers are supposed to obey superiors. That authority flows from the president. Why? Because only the president is elected by the whole people, and because the Constitution, which they are sworn to “uphold and defend,” says so. If officers cannot abide superiors, they are supposed to resign their commissions.

But McRaven and a host of senior officers do not resign. They subvert.

The Constitution prescribes all manner of procedures by which any and all who dissent from the president can counter him, including legislation, overriding vetoes, and impeachment. But McRaven’s essay merely, and dishonestly, adds to the united ruling class’s effort to attack Donald Trump outside of these constitutional procedures by feeding the media’s production of innuendos.

The Democratic Party pretends to be trying to impeach. But they know, since any Republican who joins them would be ending his career in elective politics (not, alas, in the establishment), that they have zero chance of removing Trump from office.

They hope, however, that the sheer weight of innuendos—regardless of how implausible—will turn the 2020 election because the media allows no contradiction. That is why they are conducting what they call an impeachment campaign via secret testimony, the content of which the public can know only through what the Democrats and the media say through selective leaking. This is the patent dishonesty to which the former admiral prostitutes himself.

Even as McRaven brays for removing the president, he pretends solicitude for “the republic.” But remember: the American republic is founded on the will of the people, expressed by elections. The foremost thing to keep in mind about what is happening in Washington is that it is, above all, an attempt to subordinate the will of the people, expressed in elections, to the will of the ruling class, expressed through its control of social and political institutions.

The American people’s proper and just reaction should be to remind the ruling class that as Alexander Hamilton said, “here, the people rule,” and hence pointedly to ask our would-be rulers what they have done that we should follow them?

McRaven really does speak for a substantial percentage of senior military officers. Their views are on display nightly on Fox News. It is time for the American people to realize that these, like their counterparts in the intelligence agencies, are no heroes.

If we ask what they have done for us that we should have confidence in them, we realize that these people have lost every war they have waged since 1945. Accommodating themselves to our corrupt ruling class, they have been happy enough to wage endless no-win wars which have killed as many Americans as did World War I. The current military dictionary has no entry for “victory.”

Most recently, thousands of Americans have been killed and maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan because senior officers did not object to the ruling class’s desire to use U.S. forces to settle foreign quarrels by operating in constantly replenished minefields. Living in minefields violates basic military common sense and ethics. But senior officers have prospered. Intertwined with the ruling class, they end their careers on defense contractors’ corporate boards and in villas on the golf course. Now, as part of the ruling class, they join in claiming a right to rule us deplorables regardless of elections. We can thank McRaven for making that clear.

This ex-draftee is inclined to salute them with the middle finger.

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October 20, 2019, 10:55 PM
chellim1
^^ Awesome!



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October 20, 2019, 11:41 PM
HighZonie
McRaven richly deserves the "two middle fingers up" salute.




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October 21, 2019, 01:26 AM
Tubetone
quote:
Originally posted by HighZonie:
McRaven richly deserves the "two middle fingers up" salute.


These are times that wear through the thin veneer of feigned support.


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October 21, 2019, 10:38 AM
HighZonie
HARD EVIDENCE THAT SWAMP DRAINING IS WORKING Cool

The whining, wailing, and gnashing of teeth of the entrenched in the State Department as evidenced by this article is an indication that the deep state is feeling the heat.

I have copied some of it, but suggest that you read the whole article. Don't forget to play your violin ..... Big Grin

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Diplomats describe all-time low in morale at State under Trump
BY REID WILSON - 10/21/19 06:00 AM EDT

THE HILL > https://thehill.com/homenews/a...at-state-under-trump
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"The Trump administration's perennial push for steep budget cuts, an exodus of senior staffers with decades of experience and constant allegations that agency employees represent a deep state has sent morale at the State Department to an unprecedented low.

On top of that, President Trump has fired a senior diplomat after a whisper campaign mounted by his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and abandoned steadfast allies in the Middle East to fend for themselves on the battlefield at the behest of Turkey's government.

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Current and former diplomats say the weight of those events is taking a startling and measurable toll on American foreign relations, and on their ability to carry out policy set by the White House.

Those diplomats are increasingly concerned that the White House and senior State Department leadership do not have their backs, particularly after Trump’s allies launched a whisper campaign that ended in the recall of Marie Yovanovitch as U.S. ambassador to Ukraine.

They also worry the president’s decision to withdraw American troops from northern Syria — abandoning longtime Kurdish allies who fought the war against the Islamic State — will cause other allies to think twice about partnering with the United States.

“We have squandered our global leadership, alienated our friends and emboldened our enemies,” said one U.S. ambassador, who asked not to be named to provide a candid assessment. Morale in recent weeks, the ambassador said, “is at a new low, although I am not sure it could fall much lower than where it has been for the past three years.”......
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......."Pompeo on Sunday defended Trump’s recall of Yovanovitch on ABC’s “This Week.”

"Ambassadors serve at the pleasure of the president,” Pompeo said. “And when a president loses confidence in an ambassador — it's not in that ambassador, the State Department or America's best interests for them to continue to stay in their post.”
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..........."Now, the foreign service officers who pride themselves on carrying out their orders from Washington, regardless of whether those orders are given by a Democratic or Republican administration, believe that they serve at the pleasure of a president who views them as members of a so-called deep state.

“We do not expect, nor should we, that we can become the target of blatant political warfare apparently supported by our own Department leadership,” the current ambassador said. “Who knew that an administration could sink so low as to sell out its own employees, carrying out stated U.S. policy, for personal political gain?”

It has not been lost on current and former State Department officials that the first people to willingly sit down with the House Intelligence Committee during its impeachment inquiry have been ambassadors, including Yovanovitch, McKinley, former U.S. special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker and Gordon Sondland, a Trump ally and U.S. ambassador to the European Union. Another career foreign policy expert, Fiona Hill, also testified."
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..........Inside the State Department, tensions between political appointees and career appointees are rising, sources said. Yovanovitch’s firing has underscored the tensions — and the lack of trust — between career officials and political appointees. Several sources said they felt they were being scrutinized by political appointees who could report disloyalty to senior officials.

“Every day, you’re suspect. You never know when you’re going to be put to the guillotine,” one senior foreign service officer said."




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"Thus those skilled in war subdue the enemy's army without battle .... They conquer by strategy."
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October 21, 2019, 02:37 PM
Tubetone
quote:
Originally posted by HighZonie:
“Every day, you’re suspect. You never know when you’re going to be put to the guillotine,” one senior foreign service officer said."


Good. They are not there as a super president. The president sets the policy, not the deep state.

Easy to solve: Don't work against him.

What's this "sell out" crap anyway?

Every bit of foreign policy could be considered by someone as being for personal political gain in an election year. So, this bloviator has said nothing of significance.

The deep state is just self-reporting again.


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October 21, 2019, 02:51 PM
wcb6092



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October 21, 2019, 02:58 PM
nhtagmember
Piglosi and her 'entourage' made a visit to Afghanistan and I see this as a great opportunity

nothing says that the feds have to let her back into the country



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October 21, 2019, 03:16 PM
Cliff
quote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:
[FLASH_VIDEO]<iframe frameborder="0" height="180px" src="https://omny.fm/shows/mornings-on-the-mall/wmal-interview-joe-digenova-10-21-19/embed" width="100%"></iframe>[/FLASH_VIDEO]


Thanks wcb6092. Sometimes I don't get to post Joey D until late.



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October 21, 2019, 03:35 PM
GT-40DOC
For some reason, I am not able to hear Joey D today. I always listen to him, but they say today I have to remove my ad blocker.....which I am not going to do. Maybe next week it will be o.k. again....I hope.



Update: Went back and tried it again, and it worked fine. Thank you Cliff for doing this for SF. I enjoy listening to it.
October 21, 2019, 04:16 PM
Tubetone
All this flap about the president’s personal gain is rubbish

The president wants to save taxpayers millions by choosing Doral for the G7 – at cost.

Now, we, the taxpayers, are having to foot the bill for another location. Millions are going to be thereby WASTED. Good going critics. You sure made a point to all taxpayers.

President Trump tells Ukraine, like other countries as his manner of speech, “Do me a favor” and the president is deemed to be only looking out for himself.

The truth is, I want to know what’s happening in Ukraine. Millions of Americans want to know about what forces may be using foreign influence in our government’s actions. Millions want to know the depraved malevolence that the Clinton machine may have sunk to in an effort to subvert our elections. We want to see that such never happens again. Can not the president use his good offices to inquire?

This “do me a favor” language got some of our remains back from North Korea – as just one other example. It seems some have “Orangeman Bad” syndrome pretty thoroughly.

President Trump talks his way. So, we should put the president’s words in the context of how he speaks – not in the light most unfavorable to his stated intention.

We elected someone who spoke differently because we wanted something other than the bland fare of mealy-mouthed double speak.

Now that we have it, we should look to his results and look back at our own unnecessary misgivings as we tried to parse his every word then. Hasn’t he been a man who kept his word and did what he said? Hasn’t he shot straight using his unique, rhetorical style?

Heck, alleged news people are still “reporting” the president’s “dog whistles” as their vain imaginations run wild. But, the president faces the deep state and the corruption that has been trying to take him out all along.

Reports are coming and they're trying to get some licks in before accountability promises to show.

The president has earned support and the opposition shows us daily why they are not worthy of it. Picking a “personal gain” angle to mount impeachable criticism is just far flug.


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October 21, 2019, 04:22 PM
signewt
It's not so much of a 'swamp' that needs draining, it's a festering abscess.


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October 21, 2019, 04:30 PM
Elk Hunter
quote:
McRaven really does speak for a substantial percentage of senior military officers.


And how many of these "officers" were appointed by obummer and company? Or were not awarded something they believe was their due?


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October 21, 2019, 10:06 PM
41
Democrats 'bound and determined' to go after Trump: Rep. Jim Jordan

Oct. 21, 2019 - 6:29 - Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) discusses GOP congress members’ efforts to censure Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA).

https://video.foxbusiness.com/...636001#sp=show-clips


41
October 21, 2019, 10:18 PM
41
Are Democrats more unified than Republicans?

Oct. 21, 2019 - 5:02 - Former U.S. Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) discusses RINOs (also known as: Republicans In Name Only) and the resistance against President Trump within the GOP.

https://video.foxbusiness.com/...636001#sp=show-clips


41
October 22, 2019, 10:06 AM
Veeper
Full interview with Hannity.



I just wish Hannity would ask simple questions and let his guests just talk. It drives me nuts that he tells a story for each question. (At least on his radio show.)




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October 22, 2019, 10:11 AM
HighZonie
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 41:
Are Democrats more unified than Republicans?

Oct. 21, 2019 - 5:02 - Former U.S. Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) discusses RINOs (also known as: Republicans In Name Only) and the resistance against President Trump within the GOP.
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Lemmings are very unified, but not particularly intelligent. Roll Eyes

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-1aVVEKep0




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* Diligentia Vis Celeritis *
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"Thus those skilled in war subdue the enemy's army without battle .... They conquer by strategy."
- Sun Tsu - The Art of War

"Fast is Fine, but Accuracy is Everything" - Wyatt Earp