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The Trump Presidency : Year III

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October 05, 2019, 10:49 AM
sigmonkey
The Trump Presidency : Year III
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Originally posted by Tubetone:
When Kasich goes on TV and says Trump is what the founders warned us against, does anyone know what he is talking about?

I am serious. Anyone have a specific clue from the US Constitution or a founder debate or warning from the founders?

Or, is Never-Trump just pontificating from its wishful thinking again?



Even Kasich doesn't know what he is talking about.




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October 05, 2019, 11:53 AM
jsbcody
The Rageaholic: The Impeachment Impeaches Itself - A Rant.........really NSFW, small children, and woke snowflakes:




He has some good ones on Beto.
October 05, 2019, 12:02 PM
lastmanstanding
Comey has been awful quiet as of late at least I haven't noticed any of his tweets or him being on any news programs spouting his garbage lately. He was everywhere running his mouth every single day not that long ago.


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October 05, 2019, 01:33 PM
parabellum

October 05, 2019, 02:56 PM
Balzé Halzé
Now that's an impeachment I can get behind.




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October 05, 2019, 05:34 PM
Belwolf
"Romney, who was elected to the Senate last year, faced the highest disapproval rating of Utah's congressional delegation, according to a poll taken in July."

Article

Unfortunately, as the article states, there is no current method to recall a Senator in Utah.

Perhaps one can be passed by the state...



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October 05, 2019, 06:01 PM
Tubetone
Maybe they could use the right and good clause of the state constitution. Or, as Romney seems to want for the president, just make up fresh rules as they strive toward his ouster.


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October 05, 2019, 06:29 PM
2BobTanner
quote:
Originally posted by Tubetone:
Maybe they could use the right and good clause of the state constitution. Or, as Romney seems to want for the president, just make up fresh rules as they strive toward his ouster.


Federal elective office governed by US Constitution; various State Constitutions are not applicable and can not be used for removal.


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October 05, 2019, 06:45 PM
parabellum
Do you want to be informed about this Ukraine mess, better than 95% of the American public?

Take 40 minutes and watch this. This is today's episode of Life, Liberty & Levin, with Mark Levin talking with Peter Schweizer. Forty minutes and no commercials. If you don't want to invest this scant amount of time, at least watch between 24:30 and 25:50 and listen to what Peter Schweizer says. He distills down to its essence the reason why Donald Trump is so hated in Washington, but, really, do yourself a favor and watch the entire episode:


October 05, 2019, 07:08 PM
Balzé Halzé
Yes, very worthwhile. I just finished watching it on FNC. Moreover, I just forwarded Para's video link to my entire family and implored them to watch it. Most of them are on the right side and support Trump, but outside of my father, none of them stay at all informed on this stuff. I hope they watch it.

The President was watching.



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October 05, 2019, 07:10 PM
Tubetone
quote:
Originally posted by 2BobTanner:
quote:
Originally posted by Tubetone:
Maybe they could use the right and good clause of the state constitution. Or, as Romney seems to want for the president, just make up fresh rules as they strive toward his ouster.


Federal elective office governed by US Constitution; various State Constitutions are not applicable and can not be used for removal.


I was talking about Romney in Utah and the posts immediately preceding mine. Big Grin

It was a play on the time when a brain dead Democrat averred that there was a "good and right" clause in the federal constitution. No such clause. Nonetheless, the nitwit asserted the clause anyway as justification for his actions.

Likewise, there's no such clause in the Utah state constitution.

I believe if Romney is gonna act like a Democrat, he should suffer what they dish.


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October 05, 2019, 07:18 PM
parabellum
President Trump is correct- Romney is a pompous ass who didn't know how to win against Obama. I'm quite certain that Mitt Romney hates Donald Trump as much as is possible. Don't forget, President Trump humiliated Romney by dangling a cabinet position in his face, and it's crystal clear to me that Donald Trump was simply twisting the steel in this phony bastard and never actually considered Romney for his cabinet. And I am certain that Romney now knows this and because of this, Romney will seize upon each and every opportunity to oppose and criticize Donald Trump.

Well, guess what, Mitt? Donald Trump is President of the United States and you are not and you will never be POTUS. You had your shot, but you're a weak sister. You've only yourself to blame for your failure to fight hard enough to win. If you had taken the Trump approach in your 2012 campaign, you might have stood a chance, but oh, not you, you stuffed shirt. You're too "dignified" to take off the gloves- that is, unless it's with a sitting POTUS of your own party. Disgusting, phony sack of shit.

I hope President Trump personally invites you to his inauguration in January of 2021, little girl.
October 05, 2019, 07:53 PM
HuskySig
It’s too bad that Mormons tend to be so hive minded, otherwise Mittens would only be a memory.
October 05, 2019, 08:06 PM
braillediver
This is good. Barr is involved because of the seriousness of this.

quote:
Prager: the left is not used to being investigated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIXg93vRQIY


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October 05, 2019, 08:14 PM
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Just posting the video for you, braillediver...





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October 05, 2019, 09:24 PM
wcb6092
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Do you want to be informed about this Ukraine mess, better than 95% of the American public?

Take 40 minutes and watch this. This is today's episode of Life, Liberty & Levin, with Mark Levin talking with Peter Schweizer. Forty minutes and no commercials. If you don't want to invest this scant amount of time, at least watch between 24:30 and 25:50 and listen to what Peter Schweizer says. He distills down to its essence the reason why Donald Trump is so hated in Washington, but, really, do yourself a favor and watch the entire episode:

[FLASH_VIDEO]<iframe frameborder="0" height="408" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Rv4QTdzrlUw" width="725"></iframe>[/FLASH_VIDEO]


I remember when Bill Clinton sold out the country by giving the Chinese the technology to launch satellites into space,which could also be used to launch nuclear weapons into the United States. His justification was that it would help U.S. Communications companies get satellites into space cheaper.Then the millions starting pouring into the DNC from the Chinese.I always thought it was a treasonous act and the bastard should have been hanged.

The Republicans did nothing about it,NOTHING. After watching this video it is pretty clear that the Congress has been corrupt for many years. Donald Trump is not playing their game and he has been under constant attack since winning the election.

This Government is so corrupt.How can it be fixed?

No wonder our founders wanted a Federal Government with very limited powers. We have strayed far from what we were set up to be.


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October 06, 2019, 12:05 AM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Do you want to be informed about this Ukraine mess, better than 95% of the American public?

Take 40 minutes and watch this. This is today's episode of Life, Liberty & Levin, with Mark Levin talking with Peter Schweizer. Forty minutes and no commercials. If you don't want to invest this scant amount of time, at least watch between 24:30 and 25:50 and listen to what Peter Schweizer says. He distills down to its essence the reason why Donald Trump is so hated in Washington, but, really, do yourself a favor and watch the entire episode:

[FLASH_VIDEO]<iframe frameborder="0" height="408" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Rv4QTdzrlUw" width="725"></iframe>[/FLASH_VIDEO]
This video has been removed by the user? Is their another link to watch this?


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October 06, 2019, 12:07 AM
bigdeal
Anyone else notice CNN has been running a pseudo documentary about president Nixon entitled "Tricky Dick" back to back tonight. I'm sure this is nothing but a coincidence. Roll Eyes Yeah, these people are a 'real' news agency.


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October 06, 2019, 12:48 AM
Tubetone
Substantive Due Process And The Broken Process

The whole “impeachment” effort seems unconstitutional me. There is a US Supreme Court doctrine termed “Substantive Due Process” that seems applicable at this time.

Without going into the weeds, the doctrine has been used to say that government processes, though followed in a procedural sense, are unconstitutional if they’re deemed unfair nonetheless.

One legal source, Cornell.edu, states the doctrine, as born of the “Due process” clause, as follows:

The clause also promises that before depriving a citizen of life, liberty or property, government must follow fair procedures. Thus, it is not always enough for the government just to act in accordance with whatever law there may happen to be. Citizens may also be entitled to have the government observe or offer fair procedures, whether or not those procedures have been provided for in the law on the basis of which it is acting. Action denying the process that is “due” would be unconstitutional.LINK

So we hear of this “investigation” that appears to be a partisan secretly pre-planned effort to deprive us of our president. And, in this “investigation” Kevin McCarthy tells us that Republicans are frozen out and that the president is not afforded the right to defend himself. And, we’re led to believe that the Constitution is supposed to suffer this as what the founders intended as fair? I don’t think so.

Furthermore, an impeachment investigation has as its purpose to inform the House members on all sides of the facts on which they are expected to vote. If the full facts are not allowed to be adduced, how could informed voting possibly happen? It can’t.

If the current process is so stilted that it can’t produce the full facts through its Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler and Cummings procedures, how can House members be expected to do their duty under the US Constitution? They can’t.

With the founders vesting so much power as a House responsibility, it’s hard to conceive of the current procedure as what they intended.

In the aftermath of the Salem Witch trials, people lost faith in the clergy. Many historians attribute that to the rank and file feeling that the clergy started a fire that they were feckless to stop.

For the strictest of constitutional constructionists among us, like Justice Thomas, the essence of substantive due process receives a jaundice eye. But, if there ever was a time to consider its use to stop the madness, it is now.

It’s time for statesman in the Congress, the executive branch and the Judiciary to step up.


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October 06, 2019, 12:59 AM
sjtill
This is the Fox News link to Levin’s show, which first aired 9/29. This is the full episode with Peter Schweitzer. However, you may have to sign in to a cable service to watch it.

Link


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