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The Trump Presidency : Year III

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September 26, 2019, 12:01 PM
Balzé Halzé
The Trump Presidency : Year III
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Originally posted by trapper189:
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Originally posted by Tubetone:
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Originally posted by Veeper:
. . . Schiff was doing a freestyle improv of the phone conversation . . .


Big Grin


Was that the guy who opened the hearing? The guy who opened the hearing just made up a bunch of stuff and said Trump said it. Trump said nothing of the sort and I turned it off. Lying on national television, absolutely amazing.


Yeah, that was Schiff. One of the most deluded, corruptible politicians in history.




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September 26, 2019, 12:10 PM
TigerDore
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

Yeah, that was Schiff. One of the most deluded, corruptible politicians in history.

His family name is actually much longer. They shortened the name upon immigrating to the US. The original name is Schifferbranes.


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September 26, 2019, 12:17 PM
fpuhan
Another pithy gem from Tucker Carlson (link). :
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If you want to impeach Trump, make a case on the issues. He won on the issues. Make a counter case. The geniuses can't figure that out.


That's right: not a single Dumbocrat has made the case that Trump's policies are failing. Biden's only platform, besides the gaffe-a-minute circus we're witnessing, is that he can "beat Trump." C'mon, really?

Green New Raw Deal, Gun Confiscation, Government-controlled health care and free everything. Right.






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September 26, 2019, 12:50 PM
BMR
“I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent.”

Pencilneck Schiff characterizing POTUS’s call. Wow, he sure gained credibility with that opening. And he graduated from law school, Harvard, nonetheless? What a little dickwad.



September 26, 2019, 01:05 PM
sdy
because there is so much lying and fraud going on, and the MSM are full partners in this coup process, one has to develop opinions without full and accurate information

I have read the transcript of the telephone call, the complaint doc, and the OLC opinion that the complaint should not have gone to congress

This "complaint" is a scam. All the parts feel just like the parts of the Steele dossier.

Either Fusion GPS was involved or people used the Fusion GPS process/techniques to set this up.
September 26, 2019, 01:10 PM
Veeper
How the shit are all these members of Congress communicating with all of the bad actors in this mess? At the very least, if you're an employee of the Federal Government, you should have no expectation of privacy, but especially if you're working with other people in government to set shit like this up.

Is this where Judicial Watch has to keep filing lawsuits?




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September 26, 2019, 01:15 PM
Tubetone
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Originally posted by sdy:TE]Originally posted by sdy:

This "complaint" is a scam. All the parts feel just like the parts of the Steele dossier.

Either Fusion GPS was involved or people used the Fusion GPS process/techniques to set this up.


Just read too convenient and too oppositional, not even-handed as a report from a first-hand whistleblower. It felt partisan with partisan proof texting to me, too.


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September 26, 2019, 01:17 PM
RHINOWSO
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Originally posted by Veeper:
How the shit are all these members of Congress communicating with all of the bad actors in this mess? At the very least, if you're an employee of the Federal Government, you should have no expectation of privacy, but especially if you're working with other people in government to set shit like this up.

Is this where Judicial Watch has to keep filing lawsuits?
Yes.
September 26, 2019, 01:19 PM
mbinky
Normally the FBI would be investigating the leaks of these highly classified conversations. And the perpetrators would be going to jail.

Ahh, to dream....

But I think I found me a new shirt Cool


September 26, 2019, 02:00 PM
wcb6092
Originally from the New York Times so take it with a grain of salt.


Whistleblower is reportedly a CIA officer who was stationed at the White House

https://www.washingtonexaminer...d-at-the-white-house



The whistleblower who filed a complaint alleging President Trump improperly leveraged military aid to encourage Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, is a Central Intelligence Agency officer, the New York Times reported Thursday.

The officer was detailed at the White House but has since returned to the CIA. His complaint became public earlier on Thursday, and it revealed, if accurate, that the White House officials "had intervened to 'lock down' all records of the phone call, especially the word-for-word transcript of the call."

The complaint did not contain firsthand accounts of the controversial phone call, only secondhand and thirdhand information.

“Any decision to report any perceived identifying information of the whistle-blower is deeply concerning and reckless, as it can place the individual in harm’s way,” said Andrew Bakaj, the whistleblower's lead counsel told the Times. “The whistle-blower has a right to anonymity.”

Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire testified in front of the House Intelligence Committee earlier in the day and addressed the need to keep the whistleblower's identity unknown.

“We must protect those who demonstrate the courage to report alleged wrongdoing, whether on the battlefield or in the workplace,” he said.

The CIA declined to comment for the Times' story.


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September 26, 2019, 02:31 PM
mod29
What we are witnessing is harassment and badgering of a sitting president.
Period.
Special counsels and whistleblowers my ass. It’s all bullshit. And everyone knows it’s bullshit.

The Left cried “Resist!” following the election of Donald Trump, and proceeded to throw a temper-tantrum unlike anything I’ve ever seen. It continues to this day.
The soulless democrats will stop at nothing in their effort to get Trump to step down or drop out of the 2020 race.
And no trick is too dirty for those commies.

Barr and Durham need to get off their asses and square some of this shit up, right fucking now.
I’m tired of waiting for reports and meetings without end, while the deep-state continues their campaign of harassment unchecked.
Does Barr and Durham have the balls to enforce the law? We’ll see.
September 26, 2019, 02:37 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Originally from the New York Times so take it with a grain of salt.


Whistleblower is reportedly a CIA officer who was stationed at the White House



I heard from Rush that he is one of Brennan's guys. And that makes sense.


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September 26, 2019, 02:40 PM
mbinky

September 26, 2019, 03:03 PM
BamaJeepster
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Originally posted by PASig:
Interesting take by former IC guy, via Zero Hedge:

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'He Had Help': Former CIA, NSC Official Questions 'Too Convenient' And 'Too Perfect' Whistleblower Report


More info will definitely come out, but it's looking more and more like the 'whistleblower' worked directly with Schiff and company to submit the complaint to the IG in the first place.





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September 26, 2019, 03:06 PM
braillediver
Obviously Right!

The Real Questions:
1) Who is the whistle blower?
2) How does he know about things he shouldn't be privy too?
3) Who's helping him?
4) Why aren't Presidential Communications confidential?
etc........

Brennan eh?

So when does Trump take the gloves off and fight back?


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September 26, 2019, 03:10 PM
erj_pilot
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Originally posted by braillediver:
So when does Trump take the gloves off and fight back?
Wednesday 4-NOV 2020 Big Grin



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September 26, 2019, 03:33 PM
wcb6092
Maybe this old video can enlighten us as to what is happening.




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September 26, 2019, 03:34 PM
Tubetone
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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:

it's looking more and more like the 'whistleblower' worked directly with Schiff and company to submit the complaint to the IG in the first place.


Schiff announced a few days ago that he talked to the "whistleblower's" attorney.

It made me wonder if Schiff had spent hours, like with Cohen, working on this "testimony" as well.

It seems like a conclusion in search of a witness with Schiff.

Stepping back, one must ask, "Is what we see even close to the type of thing that seems like it should get the death penalty of a presidency?"

There's a lot of political hype and overcooked hyperventilation going on.


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September 26, 2019, 04:01 PM
VBVAGUY
Please forgive me if this has already been posted or discussed, according to this article CNN and friends omitted 500+ words from the transcript to make Trump look guilty. God Bless Smile


https://thefederalist.com/2019...-he-never-requested/


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September 26, 2019, 04:03 PM
TigerDore
https://www.americanthinker.co...rd_of_directors.html


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Mitt Romney adviser sits on Burisma board of directors


Well, this is certainly an odd coincidence! In fact, when you dig in, you find an amazing series of coincidences. If you believe in coincidences when the CIA is involved, that is.

Mitt Romney’s national security advisor in his 2012 campaign -- a career CIA spook who rose to its top levels -- sits on the board of directors of Burisma, the Ukrainian gas company that formerly paid Hunter Biden $50k a month despite his complete lack of credentials or qualifications.

And it also an odd coincidence that Mitt has as CNN puts it “been a lone Republican voice expressing concern about President Donald Trump's July phone call with Volodymyr Zelensky in which Trump asked Ukraine's President to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his family.”

Still more oddly coincidental is the background of Mitt’s adviser deep in the CIA, part of the intelligence community that has “six ways from Sunday” in foiling a mere president who might oppose them, according to Chuck Schumer.

Here are the specifics:

Back on October 6, 2011 presidential candidate Mitt Romney proudly announced that Joseph Cofer Black (listed as “Cofer Black”) was among the people chosen as “special advisers”

…to advise Governor Romney on foreign policy strategy, defense issues, intelligence matters, counterterrorism, and regional policy. These advisers will assist Governor Romney as he presents his vision for restoring American leadership in the world and securing our enduring interests and ideals abroad.

Mr. Black brought to this role his extensive background at the CIA, which he joined in 1974 and trained for covert operations. He rose rapidly through the ranks, becoming Director of the National Counterterrorism Center from 1999-2002. Coincidentally, this was the time in which Al Qaeda planned and carried out the 911 attack without hindrance from the counterintelligence apparatus of the intelligence community. But Black was not penalized, he failed upward, being appointed Ambassador at Large and Coordinator for Counter-terrorism by President George W. Bush in December 2002.

And in yet another amazing coincidence, Black was succeeded in his job as Director of the National Counterterrorism Center by John Brennan.

Cofer Black left the CIA in 2006 (does anyone ever completely leave the CIA after being a spook?) to join Blackwater, the huge contractor for services related to military and intelligence action, where he served as vice chairman until 2008.

Fast forward to February 2017, when Black joined the board of directors of Burisma, 6 months after the departure of Hunter Biden.

When dealing with spooks, politicians, and bigtime power politics, sometimes coincidences are not accidental. But of course nobody wants to be a conspiracy theorist.

Big hat tip to this tweet from NoRoseGlasses and Clarice Feldman.