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Although this might feel good viscerally, its all just posturing for the cameras. This entire hearing is a complete waste of time.


This is every congressional hearing, no matter the topic, no matter who controls the committee.

These things are designed for two things: to allow the reporters to generate headlines, and to allow the congress critter's to generate sound bites for re-election campaign ads.

These are not designed to "inform" the public, they are not designed for "congressional oversight", and they are not designed to "get to the bottom" of things or to "hold people accountable".
 
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Kabuki theater. No accountability. No consequences. Hence, no negative outcomes for the guilty parties. Who will be further emboldened to disregard their oaths AND the Constitution, in their future actions. Regards 18DAI


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These are not designed to "inform" the public, they are not designed for "congressional oversight", and they are not designed to "get to the bottom" of things or to "hold people accountable".
Which I've come to accept in most cases when the two groups of spoiled irresponsible children are squabbling over money or what bathroom people can use. However, they disgust me when the topic at hand (or should be) isn't why 13 American military lives were squandered irresponsibly, and who knows how many others were rendered permanently disabled, while $80 billion dollars of US military equipment was handed over to a global terrorist organization hell bent on killing Americans. These assholes, not unlike the phony generals sitting in front of them, have no GD clue what their jobs are any more. If this country were to ever face a 'real' military threat, we'd be utterly screwed.


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"If this country were to ever face a 'real' military threat, we'd be utterly screwed"


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Kabuki theater. No accountability. No consequences. Hence, no negative outcomes for the guilty parties. Who will be further emboldened to disregard their oaths AND the Constitution, in their future actions. Regards 18DAI


There's accountability and consequences...
Look at the Marine Corps Lt Col that's sitting in the Brig right now.

Oh, wait... you mean for the GUILTY.
Oh no, no consequences for them.


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State getting the blame...
While Miley gets plenty of attention for their shortcomings and integrity questions, they're not wrong on this, Kabul and Afghanistan as a whole, was State's responsibility

Scoop: Milley's blunt private blame for the State Department
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In a classified briefing with senators on Tuesday, Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark Milley directly blamed the State Department for a botched evacuation from Afghanistan, saying officials "waited too long" to order the operation out of Kabul's airport, two sources with direct knowledge of the briefing told Axios.

Why it matters: Those private remarks were far more blunt than Milley's public testimony, in which the nation's top general said the issue of whether the order should have been given earlier is an "open question that needs further exploration."

The big picture: Two days of testimony from Milley, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Gen. Frank McKenzie, the head of U.S. Central Command, underscore the finger-pointing and deep divisions between the State Department and the Pentagon.

* Lawmakers are demanding accountability over the Biden administration's chaotic exit from Afghanistan, including the failure to evacuate thousands of at-risk Afghan allies and leaving without evacuating all Americans.

* The State Department delayed evacuations at the order of President Biden after Afghan President Ashraf Ghani warned that evacuating Afghan allies earlier would destroy morale and lead to the collapse of the government.

* Republicans have called on Milley, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, Secretary of State Antony Blinken, White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan and even President Biden to resign.

Behind the scenes: During a closed session after Tuesday's public testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) directed a general question to Austin about lessons learned from the withdrawal.

* Milley jumped in to say that the evacuation of civilians — which Duckworth had not specifically asked about — needed to happen earlier.

* The top U.S. general acknowledged that there's often disagreement between the State Department and Pentagon in general, but that it was particularly pronounced in this instance.
* A third source, defending Milley, said the general "wasn't blaming anybody per se, but was speaking from a purely military perspective. The quicker we moved out non-combatants, the safer they would be."

How it works: The State Department is responsible for triggering what's called a noncombatant evacuation operation (NEO), which is carried out by the military.

* Austin testified publicly that he ordered CENTCOM to begin preparing for a potential NEO weeks after Biden's announcement in April that the U.S. would withdraw from Afghanistan.

* But the State Department did not order the mission until Aug. 14 — one day before Kabul fell to the Taliban. A senior State Department official pointed to the fact that, as Milley himself repeatedly testified, nobody believed that the Afghan security forces would collapse in 11 days.

* It was only because the military had prepositioned forces in the region and run practice exercises, Austin testified, that thousands of troops were able to arrive in Kabul and secure the airport after 48 hours of chaos.

For the record: "Following the president’s decision to withdraw U.S. military forces from Afghanistan, CENTCOM updated contingency planning for a non-combatant evacuation operation, in coordination with the Department of State, including Embassy Kabul," a senior administration official told Axios.

* "Senior leaders from the National Security Council, State, DoD, CENTCOM and the intelligence community discussed the planning during a table-top exercise on August 6."

* "During that exercise, no DoD official, civilian or military, argued for triggering a NEO. If DoD had been pushing for an earlier NEO, we would have expected to have heard those calls during the discussion."

Flashback: Blinken was the first senior Biden official to testify before Congress on Afghanistan. He faced sharp criticism and calls to resign from several Republicans but largely remained calm under pressure.

* "We have to admit it was the State Department and the White House that caused this catastrophe, not the Defense Department," Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Ala.), the House Armed Services Committee's top Republican, said after hearing the generals' testimony on Wednesday.
 
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This guy... Has no clue which side he is on. Rot in prison for all I care.

Scheller Update...


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This guy... Has no clue which side he is on. Rot in prison for all I care.

Scheller Update...


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This guy...


There is a strong tendency to forget that the enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.
Crazies can be enemies of everyone, and often are.

I don’t claim any special skill at predicting who will turn out to be a crazy that is the enemy of everyone, but this one’s story was odd from the beginning. If there is something I have learned it is that withholding judgment about people whom I don’t know and especially if I know little or nothing about what they’ve done to attract unwanted attention is usually wise.




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Well, there's nothing like shitting on the people who support you.

And from our side, there's nothing like being made a fool of.

He must be the ultimate lone wolf, huh? Fuck everybody, right, man?

I guess the lesson here is, proceed very cautiously. Be sceptical, and if someone kinda acts like a loon, maybe they're really aloon, no matter how much we like what they're saying or doing.
 
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Well I sure as hell didn't give him any money.

I did however think, for a brief moment, that this may have been the beginning of some God's honest pushback.

Jackass is setting himself up to be the darling of no one. Wrecked his retirement, will live the rest of his life with a Dishonorable, and then he shits on people who would have supported him.

I feel bad for his kids. They have one messed-up father.


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Future spokesman for Black Rifle Coffee Company perhaps?


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Yeah, he's clearly not all that bright. Anybody who's ever been in knew that they would make an example of him. You just don't do what he did and walk away scot-free.

The smart move would have been to resign first then open your yap.


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Animals

I'm not trying to be insulting. They behave like animals, so, they're animals. An old barn would be too nice for these animals.

They don't understand basic sanitation, they have no respect for the property of others, they steal from other guests, they have no concept of how to behave in a public place, they stink, they piss on the floors, they tear up their rooms and common spaces in the hotel, they have zero control over their fucking screaming brats, and that's just for starters.


 
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This guy... Has no clue which side he is on. Rot in prison for all I care.

Scheller Update...

I am beginning to suspect a mental break


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https://justthenews.com/govern...-withdrawal-released

The Marine Corps officer who was confined to the brig after making social media comments criticizing the chaotic U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan was freed from confinement on Tuesday.

According to Military Times, Lt. Col. Stu Scheller reached a deal with the Marine Corps, resulting in his release. Scheller remains bound by a gag order that prevents him from making more social media videos discussing his case.

Scheller’s attorneys continue to pursue a deal with the military which allows him to walk away with an honorable discharge, as opposed to a lesser discharge.

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?? Scheller trashes Trump. Scheller freed from confinement. ?? related ??
 
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The Group of 20 (G20) held a video conference on Tuesday at which they agreed the Taliban must be actively involved in distributing humanitarian aid to the people of Afghanistan. The group insisted this concession should not be construed as formal recognition of the Taliban’s legitimacy.

https://www.breitbart.com/nati...umanitarian-efforts/

What could go wrong ?
 
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^^^^^
Shit...Mogadishu Part Deux. Doesn't take a Rocket Surgeon...



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