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Frank Loyd Wright and his homes

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May 26, 2020, 06:08 PM
darthfuster
Frank Loyd Wright and his homes
Great creative mind. Shame about his wife though.



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May 26, 2020, 08:24 PM
bendable
So a guy can get a 3,400 sq.ft. , F.L.W . Style home built today, someone could design it.

But!

Instead of that home being
$ 340,000.00 to erect,
The cost could very well be much closer to One million dollars ?

Is this what I am understanding ?





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May 26, 2020, 08:49 PM
cparktd
Personally, I put his work as being different solely for the sake of being different. But that's just my opinion.

I saw similar to this on a TV documentary once... 7 things Frank Lloyd Wright, a great American architect, got wrong about design.

Link is behind a pay wall... depending on your ad blocker or browser so I will copy paste the list.

https://www.insider.com/what-f...ght-got-wrong-2016-8

1) His roofs weren’t properly supported.
2) Many buildings leaked.
3) Concrete foundations were often too weak.
4) Wright didn’t fully consider future maintenance or upkeep.
5) The buildings wasted lots of energy.
6) Wright’s drainage systems weren’t always up to the task.
7) Wright prioritized design above all else.



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May 26, 2020, 08:57 PM
Skins2881
I didn't realize he was criticized, I love his houses. I'd never want to own one due to upkeep or possible historical restrictions on renovations, but damn are they pretty and unique.



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May 26, 2020, 09:04 PM
Scurvy
quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
quote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:

I agree his building methods are pricey, but his designs can also prove to be fraught with flaws.


^^^This is it in a nutshell. Attractive, interesting designs, but poorly built maintenance nightmares. The building materials and methods of the time hadn't caught up with his designs.


Exactly. He was too far ahead of his time. My dad was a mason by trade and took a great interest in the restoration work at Fallingwater. It took years for them to develop the tech to actually do his stuff the right way.
May 26, 2020, 09:56 PM
Ozarkwoods
The gas station he designed in Cloquet, MN is still in use.

Gas station


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May 26, 2020, 11:57 PM
jimmy123x
There are a lot of Frank Lloyd Wright homes here in South Florida. I'm not a big fan as they usually have very unique architecture that well, is too unique for my tastes. The houses have stood the test of time from what I can see here.
May 27, 2020, 03:39 AM
P210
The clubhouse at the King Kamehameha Golf Club here is a Frank Lloyd Wright design. I don’t golf but it’s a gorgeous place and being private it’s an escape as well.

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May 27, 2020, 05:15 AM
trapper189
quote:
Originally posted by jimmy123x:
There are a lot of Frank Lloyd Wright homes here in South Florida. I'm not a big fan as they usually have very unique architecture that well, is too unique for my tastes. The houses have stood the test of time from what I can see here.


There are no Frank Lloyd Wright designed homes in South Florida. There's one in Tallahassee and one based on a 1939 design, but built in 2013 on the Southern Univeristy campus in Lakeland. The campus was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. There are twelve buildings connected by covered walkways all designed by him.

Wright said Miami homes were “things a pig would be ashamed to live in, if pigs could talk."

Fun fact, he's credited with coining the word: carport.
May 27, 2020, 06:42 AM
Woodman
Correction: Regarding the power lines at Taliesin West - reflections of my tour ...
Viewing the Papago Mountains and Camelback, power lines obstruct our view. What would Frank have said? He did say, actually.

Of the nearby power lines, which so disturbed Wright that he wrote to President Truman requesting that they be placed underground. When Truman refused, saying it would create a precedent, Wright replied: “I have been creating precedents all my life.” – from an article by Thomas Swick, South Florida Sun-Sentinel
May 27, 2020, 06:49 AM
lastmanstanding
quote:
Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
The gas station he designed in Cloquet, MN is still in use.

Gas station

I go there to have propane tanks filled and service work done occasionally. The pictures are quite flattering compared to seeing it in person.


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May 27, 2020, 07:24 AM
shovelhead
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
quote:
Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
The gas station he designed in Cloquet, MN is still in use.

Gas station

I go there to have propane tanks filled and service work done occasionally. The pictures are quite flattering compared to seeing it in person.


Wow! Just my opinion but that is fugly!


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May 27, 2020, 08:32 AM
Ozarkwoods
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
quote:
Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
The gas station he designed in Cloquet, MN is still in use.

Gas station

I go there to have propane tanks filled and service work done occasionally. The pictures are quite flattering compared to seeing it in person.


Yes, when I worked in Eveleth in the late 70s I passed by the station on my trips to the twin cities. Back then it looked pretty good I can only imagine what it looks like today if they didn’t keep it up.


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May 27, 2020, 09:09 AM
Scurvy
quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
quote:
Originally posted by jimmy123x:
There are a lot of Frank Lloyd Wright homes here in South Florida. I'm not a big fan as they usually have very unique architecture that well, is too unique for my tastes. The houses have stood the test of time from what I can see here.


There are no Frank Lloyd Wright designed homes in South Florida. There's one in Tallahassee and one based on a 1939 design, but built in 2013 on the Southern Univeristy campus in Lakeland. The campus was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. There are twelve buildings connected by covered walkways all designed by him.

Wright said Miami homes were “things a pig would be ashamed to live in, if pigs could talk."

Fun fact, he's credited with coining the word: carport.


Yep, he thought if you put walls up around where you parked the car, people would just store junk in there. Car port ensures its only used for parking cars.
May 27, 2020, 09:18 AM
Johnny 3eagles
quote:
Yep, he thought if you put walls up around where you parked the car, people would just store junk in there. Car port ensures its only used for parking cars.


That's hilarious! I guess he never envisioned the use of carports in central Arkansas.





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May 27, 2020, 09:20 AM
trapper189
^Unfortunately, at least in my case, he was right. Moving from a house with a basement to one without was interesting.
May 27, 2020, 10:12 AM
lastmanstanding
quote:
Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
quote:
Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
The gas station he designed in Cloquet, MN is still in use.

Gas station

I go there to have propane tanks filled and service work done occasionally. The pictures are quite flattering compared to seeing it in person.


Yes, when I worked in Eveleth in the late 70s I passed by the station on my trips to the twin cities. Back then it looked pretty good I can only imagine what it looks like today if they didn’t keep it up.

They've touched it up a bit but still rather unimpressive. Eveleth? Our lake place is not far from there. They only city that I know of that told the Governor to pound sand and told their local businesses inside city limits to go ahead and open up if they so wish.


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May 27, 2020, 10:21 AM
Rev. A. J. Forsyth
I've got family that lives next door to Falling Water. I love his homes and would strangle a dolphin to own one. My pals up here in CT lived in a home that was designed by his apprentice and is very much in the FLW style. There are framed photos of FLW and the apprentice at the construction site displayed in the home. It is such an amazing house to entertain in.

Here's a crappy photo I took of the fireplace area in the living room.


May 27, 2020, 11:08 AM
kidcop
I've been really, really impressed by his design work, but as others have pointed out he put aesthetics over everything. I'd kill to live in Fallingwater or other Wright home, but some of the ceilings reflect how short he was, and I recall that many of the doors were odd sizes.

I'm probably the only cop in the agency with ties that have FLW designs on them.
May 27, 2020, 11:09 AM
jhe888
The only FLW building I have been in is the park headquarters for Rocky Mountain National Park. It is typical FLW, and quite lovely.

His influence is felt in almost all of those long, low ranch style houses built in the '50s and '60s. In some the influence is more pronounced, and in others it is just there in the overall proportions.




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