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Full article: Google REDEFINES Fascism to Protect Leftists; Smear Conservatives So, is Google trying to re-define "fascism?" You be the judge: Google's definition:
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The only definition that comes close to Google's is Wikipedia's, and even that one notes "usually placed." In the interest of full disclosure: I'm annoyed with Google, anyway. So it doesn't take much for me to find fault with them. Conversely: I'm not a conservative, either, so my only axe to grind is truth/accuracy/etc. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | ||
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So left-wing is total government, and right-wing is total government.  “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”—H.L. Mencken | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
Right. The Wikipedia definition says "fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum." But the left–right spectrum is completely meaningless. Both the far left (communism-marxism) and the far right (fascism) end up looking pretty much the same. A better spectrum would be no government on one end and total government on the other end. Republic vs. Democracy - What Is The Real Form of the U.S. Government "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Chip away the stone |
Bing has the exact same definition and states that it's powered by "Oxford Dictionaries." From what I'm finding, Google uses Oxford too. | |||
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Military Illustrated magazine issue 194 had a excellent article on the reasons Adolph Hitler and the Nazi party were a left-wing movement. It also discusses where and why the left spread the lie that they were right-wingers. | |||
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The Joy Maker |
When you're a communist, everybody opposing you is a right-wing fascist. Even if they have communist views, or are more communist than you, especially if they're more communist than you, they must be called right-wing fascists, because more communism is good, and if someone is more communist than you, then you're the right-wing fascist. 
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Don't Panic |
Yep. Their economics was socialistic - they nationalized industries, centrally allocated resources, subsidized farmers, etc. Not that Wikipedia is the be-all and end-all of historical research (I like Adam Tooze's The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy as a reference, for those with time and and interest) but here are some relevant bits from Wikipedia - The Economy of Nazi Germany
TL: DR -> Nazis called themselves 'National Socalists' and they were. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Socialists and allies of the father of fascism, Benito Mussolini, who was a lifelong radical Socialist. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Excellent video and the true definition. I define Liberal vs Conservative by the amount of Government (control). I think most may define it by an issue ~ incorrectly. I never understood how most common everyday folks can support the notion of paying more in taxes and having less control of their life.  | |||
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Socialism - (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism Facism - an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. synonyms: authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship Dictatorship - a country governed by a dictator Nazism - the political principles of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Irony - the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect. __________________________________________________________________ Beware the man who has one gun because he probably knows how to use it. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Right. And in the current lexicon, you would be considered a Conservative because you believe in liberty, which is the defining characteristic of a Classical Liberal.  Leftists (Government control freaks) always try to change the meaning of the terms when people begin to figure out that they don't want you to have liberty. See: progressive. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Conservative Behind Enemy Lines  |
Lauren gives the real and genuine definition in this video: But, her video doesn't serve to support Leftists, so google doesn't mention it. Of all the enemies the American citizen faces, the Democrat Party is the very worst. | |||
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The original fascist, Mussolini, was far left. He was a socialist, as was Hitler; likewise with Saddam Hussein. Stalin and Mao were communists, as was Castro. Fascism is far left. Far right is probably more libertarian than anything. At minimum it is about the least government possible without anarchy.
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Left = Communism = Dictatorship... After all, it's not called "the dictatorship of the proletariat" for no reason. | |||
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Very good, thanks for posting. I have two deeply thoughtful and profound observations to make: 1) She never mentioned Generalissimo Francisco Franco's place on the political spectrum line. 2) I still will call everyone I disagree with a "Commie", rather than the currently fashionable "Fascist." It's generational of me. 3) OK, three. I resent the current GDC's appropriation of Russia as the boogie man in attacking our President. Goddam commies. ____________________ | |||
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| No double standards |
Communism is where politicians and bureaucrats subjugate the people and serve themselves. Fascism is where politicians and bureaucrats subjugate the people and serve themselves, plus serve a few of their superficially capitalist cronies. A distinction without a difference. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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Legalize the Constitution |
I believe a better spectrum is circular, rather than linear. Ultimately, carried to their ultimate design, both end with government domination and population subservient to, or suppressed by government. I don't know where you put anarchy, but the end goal of Marxism/Communism is certainly anything but "no government." _______________________________________________________ despite them | |||
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| Stuck on himself |
As I understood things, the main reason fascism is mistakenly identified with right-wing ideology is the rejection of government-forced equality. | |||
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It is isn't mistaken. It is a concerted effort in academia to deflect from what socialism/communism really is- authoritarian oligarchic rule where a few are above the problems and suffering of the masses- i.e. NK, China, USSR, Cuba, Nazi Germany, Venezuela, etc etc. | |||
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It isn't circular, I think "circular" is the reasoning applied by the left to twist conservatism into fascism. It is definitely linear, conservatism at one end and modern leftism at the other. What is currently labeled conservatism is really classic liberalism: a desire for self-determination, maximum freedom and limited government. By its very definition, conservatism cannot be fascist. It would be like saying "wetland desert".
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