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I applaud your approach, but I would suggest this person hasn't learned anything. They're simply scared. I'd posit, if things went back to some semblance of normal again and they lost their current sense of terror/fear, these people would hide or sell the gun they bought and go back to maligning all of us again. They'd likely also go back to voting for all the things that would send us right back to where we are now. IMO, if these people sink or swim, they can do it on their own. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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semi-reformed sailor |
^^ well when or if he comes back to me to learn what he doesn’t know, I will assist him in steering him the right way. I don’t want him or his wife or kids getting hurt because they were ignorant. But I in no way think he’s gonna quit voting for the commies just because he wants to defend his home. I can’t fault anyone for that. "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
You may already know this Mike, but if he’s got kids… I found the NRA Eddie eagle program to work like a charm. You can never kidproof your guns, but you can certainly gunproof your kids. My kids are grown now… And they did a lot of shit… But they promised the one rule they never ever broke was the firearms rule. No airsoft allowed either… They completely understood. (I asked them “why” once… LOL… They said for sure they knew they would die if I caught them. First time to a range, I destroyed an Apple with a .40 so they understood what we were dealing with.) Now lighting fire crackers on top of a full 55 gallon barrel of 110 race gas…  "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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| Page late and a dollar short |
I’m in agreement with you. -------------------------------------—————— ————————--Ignorance is a powerful tool if applied at the right time, even, usually, surpassing knowledge(E.J.Potter, A.K.A. The Michigan Madman) | |||
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| Partial dichotomy |
I'm with you, Mike, but I'd certainly also take that opportunity to "suggest" how the left has always wanted to disarm us. Put in a tactful way, he may take it to heart....somewhat. SIGforum: For all your needs! Imagine our influence if every gun owner in America was an NRA member! Click the box>>>  | |||
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Perhaps they will accidentally shoot themselves. It's a start. | |||
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Again, I applaud your approach and willingness to extend a hand. Personally, his "ignorance" is his problem, not mine. The only reason I 'might' offer up some direction is if I thought there was a chance he might send rounds into 'my' home. Short of that, these people are on their on in my book given the environment they have personally created for all of us to deal with. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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posting without pants |
First off, stop putting people into absolute camps. People can, and do, change their minds, especially as they age and gain experience. At 21, the age I bought my first Sig, and shortly before I joined here, I was a card carrying liberal. I was in favor of the AWB, hated GWB, and fell lock step in line with what my fellow college students were feeling/thinking. Some life experience, and meeting some well meaning, experienced, and properly educated folks opened my eyes. The attitude that some people (on both sides) have that "the other side is automatically the enemy" is very dangerous, and completely false. Not only that, but it drives a wedge between those that CAN change their perspectives. That's an attitude I see frequently from both the right AND the left... We need to knock that shit off, or we are gonna alienate a WHOLE lot of people who could come around with some life experience. Those conversations, one that the OP is gifted the chance, can change everything. Think about if EVERY gun owner could make just ONE convert every three years... How would the voting go then? How about EVERY YEAR getting just ONE convert? You want to keep and expand our Second Amendment rights? Me too. The ABSOLUTE BEST way to do that is to have good, rational, articulate, reasonable people educate the others and convert them. Donate to the NRA (or possibly better gun rights orgs..) sure... Do that. To make the BEST difference... Take just ONE person a year shooting. Educate them, teach them, and be patient with them. Be a diplomat, not an ass. Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
Biden boasts "We're changing people's lives" in a speech. Stalin could have said the same thing. | |||
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I ordered a new pickup 10 months ago, and I haven't seen it yet. It will replace the truck I bought in 1999. I hope. In 1999, you just walked into the dealership and they had a lot full of vehicles, and you drove one home. Easy peasey. So that's a change. A lot of my favorite restaurants have gone out of business. The ones that are left are understaffed, so food and service are terrible. I now almost always eat at home. The price of local seafood has doubled, so eating at home is far more expensive, but still cheaper than eating out, and much tastier. Not much else has changed. Buy Joe has 2.5 more years to go.... ---------------------------------------------------- Dances with Crabgrass | |||
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Spinnin' Chain |
The biggest change for me is my outlook on the future of this country. I've transitioned from general positivity to grave concern. He's changed my life. We typically traveled regularly and haven't done so since the onset of covid, yes I'm aware of admin overlap. Fuel prices now, airline and covid restrictions early on. 401k is off 27%, SD IRA is up, so that's a plus but not a wash. We are now critical of every extraordinary expenditure. I could think of more things to bitch about... | |||
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In my opinion, when Biden made that statement, he is admitting that inflation, shortages, cost of gas, etc., are intentional, and are the side effects of an agenda. I suspect that agenda has addressing climate change at the top, but it's probably much bigger than that. His administration will make some minor effort to combat the price of gas, which will have little to no effect, as long as it does not affect their agenda. Why else would he make that statement? If he were truly regretful for the inflation and price of gas, and that it was caused by Putin, why wouldn't he make a statement of sympathy and talk about how he is working to reduce or eliminate the pain? It's all intentional, folks... | |||
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I concur. The days of $2.99 (and less) gas are GONE. FOREVER!! Once the populace becomes accustomed to $3.99 and $4.99, that's what the market will bear and will NEVER go lower. It would take a miracle from God himself for that to change... FJB! [clap, clap, clapclapclap] FJB! Rinse and repeat... "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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The Nazi party's official position was that a lie repeated often enough and loudly enough becomes the truth. Totalitarian fascists are all much the same. Retired holster maker. Retired police chief. Formerly Sergeant, US Army Airborne Infantry, Pathfinders | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
Once upon a time, back in CA, I had grand illusions of taking Democrat voting friends, family members, and a couple of wife's co-workers to the range to introduce them to firearms, maybe close to a dozen during the GWB/Obama years. Most of them asked to go shooting. I provided guns, ammo, and paid for their range fees, such a nice guy I was. But they had to listen to me about safety, shooting techniques, dispel myths and lies, tell them the dangers of gun control. It was a total complete waste of my time, my money and ammo. NONE of them became gun owners, and ALL of them continued to vote for Obama a 2nd time, along with Hillary and I imagine Joe. One of my gun buddies, who did the same exact thing earlier, advised me to stop these generous range trips. And these same commies would continue to ask me to take them again, and were dismayed when I told them only if they would support gun rights. And of course none of them did, which stopped the requests to go shooting. Not one single full grown adult in my life ever completely changed their political proclivities. None. And most of these same "friends" are not on speaking terms with me and the wife anyways; our support of Trump threw them into a tizzy and their version of cancel culture went into gear. I'll NEVER AGAIN take a Democrat shooting, fuck 'em. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
Most don't... but a few do get hit by the on-coming train called life and WAKE UP. Sometimes it happens gradually and they realize they aren't the progs they thought they were. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Be prepared for loud noise and recoil |
Obama was awful. But at least you could say he’s the first black President. Useless, I know. But it’s important to some people. So they could afford to give him a pass to keep up appearances. Biden on the other hand, is orders of magnitude worse, and doesn’t provide “intersectional capital”. Moderates will turn on him. Maybe even the DNC. “Crisis is the rallying cry of the tyrant.” – James Madison "Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." - Robert Louis Stevenson | |||
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As bad as Obama was, you can blame the Republicans for not coming up with a good candidate. They truly are half of the uni-party. Of course, the Dems always steal elections whenever possible, so they are the worse half of the uniparty. The Dems that I know, I remind them occasionally about how unprotected they are in case of a home invasion or a carjacking. If they get attacked, I will have no sympathy. -c1steve | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
I'd like to know who thinks otherwise. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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I Deal In Lead |
A bunch of people think otherwise. There's Biden, his wife, his son, Charles Schumer, Nancy Pelosi...the list of delusional people goes on. | |||
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