This isn't anything we don't already know, but the source is a pleasant surprise.

https://www.breitbart.com/radi...EjV2_8VexdPK4ZYKIYNg

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Greenpeace Founder: Global Warming Hoax Pushed by Corrupt Scientists ‘Hooked on Government Grants’


Greenpeace co-founder and former president of Greenpeace Canada Patrick Moore described the cynical and corrupt machinations fueling the narrative of anthropocentric global warming and “climate change” in a Wednesday interview on SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Tonight with hosts Rebecca Mansour and Joel Pollak.

Moore explained how fear and guilt are leveraged by proponents of climate change:

Fear has been used all through history to gain control of people’s minds and wallets and all else, and the climate catastrophe is strictly a fear campaign — well, fear and guilt — you’re afraid you’re killing your children because you’re driving them in your SUV and emitting carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and you feel guilty for doing that. There’s no stronger motivation than those two.

Scientists are co-opted and corrupted by politicians and bureaucracies invested in advancing the narrative of “climate change” in order to further centralize political power and control, explained Moore.

Moore noted how “green” companies parasitize taxpayers via favorable regulations and subsidies ostensibly justified by the aforementioned narrative’s claimed threats, all while enjoying propagandistic protection across news media”

And so you’ve got the green movement creating stories that instill fear in the public. You’ve got the media echo chamber — fake news — repeating it over and over and over again to everybody that they’re killing their children. And then you’ve got the green politicians who are buying scientists with government money to produce fear for them in the form of scientific-looking materials. And then you’ve got the green businesses, the rent-seekers, and the crony capitalists who are taking advantage of massive subsidies, huge tax write-offs, and government mandates requiring their technologies to make a fortune on this. And then, of course, you’ve got the scientists who are willingly, they’re basically hooked on government grants.

When they talk about the 99 percent consensus [among scientists] on climate change, that’s a completely ridiculous and false number. But most of the scientists — put it in quotes, scientists — who are pushing this catastrophic theory are getting paid by public money, they are not being paid by General Electric or Dupont or 3M to do this research, where private companies expect to get something useful from their research that might produce a better product and make them a profit in the end because people want it — build a better mousetrap type of idea. But most of what these so-called scientists are doing is simply producing more fear so that politicians can use it to control people’s minds and get their votes because some of the people are convinced, ‘Oh, this politician can save my kid from certain doom.’

The narrative of anthropogenic global warming or “climate change” is an existential threat to reason, warned Moore:

It is the biggest lie since people thought the Earth was at the center of the universe. This is Galileo-type stuff. If you remember, Galileo discovered that the sun was at the center of the solar system and the Earth revolved around it. He was sentenced to death by the Catholic Church, and only because he recanted was he allowed to live in house arrest for the rest of his life.

So this was around the beginning of what we call the Enlightenment, when science became the way in which we gained knowledge instead of using superstition and instead of using invisible demons and whatever else, we started to understand that you have to have observation of actual events and then you have to repeat those observations over and over again, and that is basically the scientific method.

“But this abomination that is occurring today in the climate issue is the biggest threat to the Enlightenment that has occurred since Galileo,” declared Moore. “Nothing else comes close to it. This is as bad a thing that has happened o science in the history of science.”

Moore concluded, “It’s taking over science with superstition and a kind of toxic combination of religion and political ideology. There is no truth to this. It is a complete hoax and scam.”



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Moore is well known and one of the dark shadow areas in the Green movement's closet.

This is from 2000
'Judas' of the eco-warriors spreads his gospel of doubt

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He helped found Greenpeace, and was a director of it for 15 years. He took part in direct action against whaling and nuclear testing, was arrested for protecting a seal pup from being clubbed to death, and was on board the Rainbow Warrior the day it was blown up by French spies in Auckland harbour.

But now Dr Patrick Moore is seen by environmentalists as a traitor to the cause.

In his latest broadside against the green movement, Moore last week denounced the charity to which he devoted so much in the Seventies and early Eighties as an enemy of the environment, declaring its policies 'irrational' and 'damaging'. The Canadian author - who is now employed by the timber industry as its spokesman - also condemned much of the rest of the mainstream environment movement for scaremongering and peddling 'phoney baloney'.

He criticised a range of other green charities, including the World Wide Fund for Nature and the Rainforest Foundation, and ridiculed celebrities such as Sting and Leonardo DiCaprio, who he believes have jumped on the green bandwagon. 'I doubt Leonardo DiCaprio has a deep knowledge of molecular biology,' he said.

In an atmosphere of bitter recrimination, the environmentalists are hitting back hard. Greenpeace has declared that he has 'gone off the rails'. The Forest Action Network has even dedicated a website to proving that 'Patrick Moore is a big fat liar' featuring pictures of him with a Pinocchio nose. 'Judas Is-cariot had the decency to hang himself after betraying Jesus,' one item reads. 'Moore ... can't even be persuaded to shut his mouth'.

Indeed, he cannot. Moore, 52, regularly takes to the airwaves and publishes essays in North America to denounce environmental 'extremism'.

And the greens do not like it one bit. 'He gets far more press than is scientifically justifiable. It's one individual who is trading on his past credentials to try and discredit everything that everyone else is working for,' said Tamara Stark of Greenpeace Canada. 'There is a sense of betrayal. There is great frustration and some level of anger.'
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Originally posted by corsair:
Moore is well known and one of the dark shadow areas of the Green movement.

This is from 2000...

Good stuff, thanks. Hard for me to admit now, but 30 years ago I was a member of Greenpeace.



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Originally posted by TigerDore:

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Originally posted by corsair:
Moore is well known and one of the dark shadow areas of the Green movement.

This is from 2000...

Good stuff, thanks. Hard for me to admit now, but 30 years ago I was a member of Greenpeace.



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There are a few things they are right about, the unnecessary slaughter of the oceans cetaceans chief among them.

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There are a few things they are right about, the unnecessary slaughter of the oceans cetaceans chief among them.

You're right.



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Last week he said, basically, that anyone buying into the "Green New Deal" was a moron.

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Last week he said, basically, that anyone buying into the "Green New Deal" was a moron.

I believe even "Morons" realize the Green New Deal is a Liberal Progressive Dematard Wet Dream Hoax?

This topic comes up often on another board. I've pointed out that of the man made contribution the US is responsible for only 15 percent. China puts double that amount in. AOC and Sanders have said we only have 12 years left. What do we do? One one response and that was to put the grid on renewables. I asked what about the other 85 percent. No answers so far. I think they know this is a sham.

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This topic comes up often on another board. I've pointed out that of the man made contribution the US is responsible for only 15 percent. China puts double that amount in. AOC and Sanders have said we only have 12 years left. What do we do? One one response and that was to put the grid on renewables. I asked what about the other 85 percent. No answers so far. I think they know this is a sham.

If you want to get another of those blank stares from them, ask them about the 17 proven ice ages that earth has gone through. With a warming period between each of them.

Or about all those boulders near the Canadian border up in the Pacific North West. Residue from the glaciers.

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If you want to get another of those blank stares from them, ask them about the 17 proven ice ages that earth has gone through. With a warming period between each of them

Ask leftists if they can explain how long the Sahara desert has been around. Since about 1600 b.c. As it turns out, it was created largely as a result of a cycle of the shift in the Earths axis.

The arrogance of the retard AOC to say we have 12 years left reveals her extreme ignorance.

Don't worry about nothing we only have 12 years left....LOL. Sad part is that that MORON will probably still be in office when she explains why we're all still here in 2031.

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Originally posted by goose5: I asked what about the other 85 percent. No answers so far.

But, but, but, we're doing OUR part, somebody needs to set the example. The self-righteous clowns really believe IF the US does it, everyone will fall in-line.

Curiously they've conveniently ignored that China has risen to be a rapacious, all-consuming entity that shows no sign of slowing down and India, even with its massive vegetarian population, ranks in the top-3 of CO2 polluters and is also rapidly growing and modernizing.

Simple responses to the Greenies...

1) If carbon is really the killer, why then were there more plants and animal species during prehistoric times when the carbon count was hundreds, if not thousands, of times higher than it is today?
2) How many of the 'scientists' claiming advanced knowledge of global warming causes and cures have been even remotely right in predicting any of the climate changes the planet has encountered over the past 100 years? Answer...None. Not even close. They've been spectacularly wrong.
3)How does killing the US economy through stupid 'green' initiatives, allowing other countries to move forward without curtaining pollution, whereby making them stronger, put the US in a position to dictate anything on this or any other topic.

Lesson 101 in common sense is now complete.

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"I issue a challenge to anyone to provide a compelling argument that counters my analysis of the historical record and the prediction of CO2 starvation based on the 150 million year trend. Ad hominem arguments about “deniers” need not apply. I submit that much of society has been collectively misled into believing that global CO2 and temperature are too high when the opposite is true for both. Does anyone deny that below 150 ppm CO2 that plants will die? Does anyone deny that the Earth has been in a 50 million-year cooling period and that this Pleistocene Ice Age is one of the coldest periods in the history of the planet?" -- Patrick Moore, formerly President of Greenpeace International Canada

Excerpted from Former President of Greenpeace Scientifically Rips Climate Change to Shreds

It's a long article, and sometimes a bit of a difficult slog, but it's well worth your time to read it, IMO.

Bottom line: Not only is the human contribution to CO² in Earth's atmosphere likely not a contributor to global warming, but, even if it is, it's almost certainly a benefit to life on this planet.

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that and the so-called 'carbon footprint'

its an irrelevant term because everyone's carbon footprint is the same

there is no new carbon being created, its merely changing form

unless you happen to be a neutron star and are making new elements - the amount of carbon on this planet is essentially constant

Moore was not a founder of Greenpeace. He was involved in GreenPeace Canada three decades ago, but his claims are false, and he uses them frequently in representing petro and nuclear companies as an paid "environmentalist." He isn't. The claim that he was "president" is misleading, as his work was only with Greenpeace Canada. He did not manage the organization internationally, and his claim to be a founder is 100% false.

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Or about all those boulders near the Canadian border up in the Pacific North West. Residue from the glaciers.

per "Erratic Rock" located in foothills SW of PDX, geologically clone to a northern Alberta site.

This is all enormously complicated. Polar icecaps have been very rare throughout the ~4.5 billion years of earth's history. If you're interested in this shit (as I am), then you might like this vid:


Link to original video: https://youtu.be/ztninkgZ0ws

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....his work was only with Greenpeace Canada. He did not manage the organization internationally...

"Greenpeace co-founder and former president of Greenpeace Canada"

Regarding the rest of your post, has Greenpeace issued an official refutation of Moore's bio?



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"Greenpeace co-founder and former president of Greenpeace Canada"


Regarding the rest of your post, has Greenpeace issued an official refutation of Moore's bio?



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Greenpeace has done so. https://www.greenpeace.org/usa...statement-on-patric/

Greenpeace was founded by Jim Bohlen, Phillip Cote, and Irving Stowe. Moore applied to join a year later.

It plays well for Moore, however, to sell his services as an environmentalist, if he can say he is the cofounder of Greenpeace. He's spend most of his "environmental activism" lobbying for energy companies, and a very small part of it actually associated with environmental activism or Greenpeace. His selling point is his claim to legitimacy: if a true environmentalist like the founder of Greenpeace can say it, then it must be strong stuff. Except that he's not what he claims to be. This isn't his cause: it's his income. It's his business: pretending to be an environmentalist while instead a paid shill for energy companies.

I'm not making a statement regarding the correctness of his material, nor on the subject of climate change, but regarding Moore himself and his claim. The sensationalism isn't nearly as sensational, given his deceptive practice.