January 12, 2025, 01:17 PM
pbslingerTire Discussion: Ultra High Performance All Season Tires
quote:
Originally posted by PGT:
Running 22” Michelin Pilots and they are more comfortable than the OEM 20” Conti’s, handle better and have been great in this weeks snow and ice. Predictable on the sheer ice of my street and handled 600 ft/lbs of EV torque nicely on packed snow. So much so I didn’t need to drive my RAM 1500.
https://imgur.com/a/4AlcKl7
One of the AS4 videos I watched on youtube talked about a strange thing about these tires is that the outside tire decorations is plainer than the inside. Not sure but it looks like your tires could be installed inside out.:
Discussed at the 5:07 mark in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_11FJI4uu4January 12, 2025, 01:19 PM
P250UA5quote:
Originally posted by pbslinger:
quote:
Originally posted by PGT:
Running 22” Michelin Pilots and they are more comfortable than the OEM 20” Conti’s, handle better and have been great in this weeks snow and ice. Predictable on the sheer ice of my street and handled 600 ft/lbs of EV torque nicely on packed snow. So much so I didn’t need to drive my RAM 1500.
https://imgur.com/a/4AlcKl7
One of the AS4 videos I watched on youtube talked about a strange thing about these tires is that the outside tire decorations is plainer than the inside. Not sure but it looks like your tires could be installed inside out.
I'm assuming you mean with the 'Outside' marked parts on the inside?
Pretty tough to install a tire inside out

January 12, 2025, 01:37 PM
a1abdjquote:
Pretty tough to install a tire inside out
But quite easy to mount a directional tire backwards......
January 12, 2025, 02:01 PM
PGTYes, these were rotated at 5k miles due to feathering on the fronts and road hum/noise (very noticeable in an EV). Being as heavy as they are, Costco recommends rotating every 5k miles and they do it no cost since that's where I bought them.
I will say, I drive the heck out of this vehicle and throw it very hard into corners in Sport mode with the suspension at full stiff and Low ride height so not all surprising (and the rotation fixed the noise and feathering in 200 miles)
January 12, 2025, 02:49 PM
pbslingerPGT - Are the circular sipes on the outside of the tire? The sipes on the inside are straight.
January 12, 2025, 04:19 PM
trapper189Guys, did you look at PGT's tire picture? At about 6:31-6:32 on the sidewall, it clearly says "OUTSIDE".

January 12, 2025, 06:10 PM
pbslingerquote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
Guys, did you look at PGT's tire picture? At about 6:31-6:32 on the sidewall, it clearly says "OUTSIDE".
Good eye. The only reason I wondered is his tires have fancier graphics on the outside than the ones I had installed a few days ago.
January 12, 2025, 07:38 PM
PGTPretty sure they swapped the tires on the wheels based on the lube on the wheels but my wife took it by (we're like a mile walk home so she dropped off as soon as they opened)
January 12, 2025, 08:28 PM
Chowserquote:
Originally posted by DanH:
I'm in the 8,000 mile range with the Goodyear Eagle Exhilarates and I thought after snowpocalypse would be a good update.
I made it to 7k on mine before I swapped my dedicated snow setup on. It was only one snow storm and roads were unplowed. It did fine. I'm liking these over the CrossClimate2s. My mpg didn't decrease with the goodyears and the michelins are louder on dry road.
quote:
Originally posted by a1abdj:
But quite easy to mount a directional tire backwards......
I did this one season on my snow setup and didn't notice until after winter. Oopsie.