In TN, it's tied to your driver's license, not your plate, and while it used to be "may-notify" during a LEO encounter the statute was changed a few years ago to "shall-notify." Doesn't matter, I always notify as I'm handing they my license and permit. They ask me where it is, I usually tell them "backpack," or "3:20," and they respond with, "Thanks, don't reach for it," and we go about our business. not that I get pulled over very often.

I think there was a huge to-do a few decades back because of the ultra-liberal Commercial Appeal here in the Memphis area. Y'see, HCP holder information used to be a matter of public record, so they decided it would be a great idea to print a copy of the names and addresses of the Memphis area list one day (you likely know where this is headed).

"It's a matter of public record, and 'the people' have a right to know!"

After a severe uptick in burglaries, the State was petitioned successfully to revisit the statutes regarding the HCP list and access to the list was severely restricted.

I doubt Montana does, since conceal carry permits are no longer required in cities... it's always been legal to carry concealed out of city limits here.

Arkansas is a yes!

I wonder if LEOs become more or less comfortable upon knowing that the driver has a permit or not.

My perception is that LEO would be more comfortable knowing the driver has a permit. 1) knows that the driver is likely armed; 2) knows that the driver is likely okay - background checked. All kinds of unknowns if the driver does not have a permit.

But I'm just speculating.....

You are not required to inform LE in Florida per law, they can ask, it's up to you to respond in kind.

Pretty sure that it doesn't come up with DL information in Florida since its protected data by law.

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Originally posted by Ronin1069:

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Originally posted by blueye:
As a resident of Texas and a holder of a CCW, I was pulled over by the police about 15 yrs ago. Don't remember for what but when I gave him my DL, he came back and asked if I had any guns on me and he asked a second time. I responded no and told him I had no problem with him frisking me and tossing the car. He cut me loose and told me not to speed.

So I guess he had access to gun info.

That seems contrary to every piece of police interaction advice I’ve ever seen.

I'm a Texas CCL holder, and when I got my first issue the training stressed that the law required that a licensee must produce the CCL and tell the officer that there was a gun within reach IF THAT WERE THE CASE. If no gun was within reach, it was not necessary to produce the license or mention it to the officer. I've never had to worry about it.

flashguy

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Originally posted by jljones:
Yes (sort of)

OL is linked to plate and CCDW is linked to OL. When you run the plate it returns, the OL and CCDW of the registered owners.

OL = Owner’s License ?

ETA: It is my understanding that in CA the same is true. If your name is on the title for a vehicle, it links to your license and the fact that you have a permit is linked to your license. That falls down if your vehicle is owned by a company. Not sure what happens if the vehicle is owned by a trust with the driver’s name in the name of the trust.

When I first got my permit, our Sheriff wanted us to always notify. On one renewal or another the message had changed to, “Use your judgement. You should always tell my deputies and it won’t be a problem. However some officers at some agencies may not respond well. I’ve not heard of any stories involving local agencies, but I have heard that folks have issues in San Francisco.

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Originally posted by vulrath:
In TN, it's tied to your driver's license, not your plate, and while it used to be "may-notify" during a LEO encounter the statute was changed a few years ago to "shall-notify." Doesn't matter, I always notify as I'm handing they my license and permit. They ask me where it is, I usually tell them "backpack," or "3:20," and they respond with, "Thanks, don't reach for it," and we go about our business. not that I get pulled over very often.

I think there was a huge to-do a few decades back because of the ultra-liberal Commercial Appeal here in the Memphis area. Y'see, HCP holder information used to be a matter of public record, so they decided it would be a great idea to print a copy of the names and addresses of the Memphis area list one day (you likely know where this is headed).

"It's a matter of public record, and 'the people' have a right to know!"

After a severe uptick in burglaries, the State was petitioned successfully to revisit the statutes regarding the HCP list and access to the list was severely restricted.

Do you have a reference for Tennessee being a "shall notify state"? Everything I've found says we are "may notify".

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Originally posted by HRK:
You are not required to inform LE in Florida per law, they can ask, it's up to you to respond in kind.

Pretty sure that it doesn't come up with DL information in Florida since its protected data by law.

Same thing here in Arizona.

In NE a check of your DL or ID will reveal if you are a CCW permit holder. Also, NE you required to inform LE, EMS, and or Fire that you are carrying. If you able to. So, you are knocked out or badly injured some jackass can’t hang you out to dry because “he/she didn’t tell me”.

In my CA CCW classes, they tell us the rule is to disclose CCW to LEO. I assume it's tied my driver's license so the LEO will know if they run my DL number.

I'd rather the LEO know that I'm the good guy. In my experience, the LEO is at my window before they run the license plate in the system. Therefore they wouldn't know if I'm CCW or whether I'm carrying.

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Originally posted by Pyker:
Not in Minnesota. Names and details are held at the county of residence by the Sheriff. Numbers of permits are reported annually to the DPS in St. Paul.

That being said, it's only two phone calls to get the info if it's needed.

I was of the understanding that a run of your DL in MN showed that you had a Permit to Carry to the officer on his screen.

Can't see how running the license plate is going to tell them that... who's to say who is driving the vehicle? DL could be a yes depending on the State.

In S.C. you have to tell them if you are carrying but I've been known to remove my pistol and put it in the center console before the cop gets to the window...then I'm not concealed carrying and the gun is where it is supposed to be in S.C. if you don't have a permit.

In Ohio, it's tied to your operator's license. if the vehicle plate is in your name, we get the owner's info and if the owner has a permit.

If you're not the owner of the plate, then we won't know.

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Originally posted by Chowser:
In Ohio, it's tied to your operator's license. if the vehicle plate is in your name, we get the owner's info and if the owner has a permit.

If you're not the owner of the plate, then we won't know.

Same here in VA.

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Originally posted by konata88:
I wonder if LEOs become more or less comfortable upon knowing that the driver has a permit or not.

My perception is that LEO would be more comfortable knowing the driver has a permit. 1) knows that the driver is likely armed; 2) knows that the driver is likely okay - background checked. All kinds of unknowns if the driver does not have a permit.

But I'm just speculating.....

When I was policing, just assumed everyone was armed.

NC is a must notify state, and whenever I had someone tell me, I said, kept it put away and it’ll be OK.

Tried to teach that to all my rookies. Mostly told them, hey, this guy has jumped thru a bunch of hoops to get this CCW-he’s probably not the guy who is gonna freak out and blast ya…

I also gave those people a warning if it was something I could do (speeding, seatbelt, stop sign)

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Originally posted by blueye:
As a resident of Texas and a holder of a CCW, I was pulled over by the police about 15 yrs ago. Don't remember for what but when I gave him my DL, he came back and asked if I had any guns on me and he asked a second time. I responded no and told him I had no problem with him frisking me and tossing the car. He cut me loose and told me not to speed.

So I guess he had access to gun info.

Also a Texas resident CCW holder...I always hand over my permit with my DL & Proof of insurance and tell officer whether or not I have my firearm with me. I view it as a courtesy and it saves time for us both, and prevents confusion.

Its gotten my out of a ticket and get only a warning a couple of times over the years...

I've done that before, w/bad results. I don't get pulled over very often if ever, but I never inform out of courtesy any longer, in case the officer in question isn't a normal person or in the wrong career. I've even gotten on the bad side while NOT informing in a non-informing state, was taunting me while figuring out if he was going to "haul me" in. Lovely. Lots of good officers, and some other types as well.

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Originally posted by Appliance Brad:
I'm in Michigan. We are a mandatory disclosure state if you are carrying. Therefore if you are carrying a firearm and stopped(and therefore temporarily detained) you have to disclose that your are a CPL holder and carrying a firearm. A contact where you are free to walk away does not require disclosure and you are not required to produce an ID if you are not detained. A record pull on your DL does not return if you have a CPL or not. There has to be a separate LEIN inquiry for that purpose. That changed a few years back.

Didn’t realize that Michigan LEO’s no longer had that information available while running 10-28/10-29’s sorry, NMSP codes still come to mind after my Fire/EMS time there as being a small town we interacted with local, county and state on just about every call we ran on.

My youngest was stopped by the city we lived in for tossing a cigarette out of the window of her car. Upon being pulled over she was found to be 17, a violation of state law. Officer wanted me at the location of the stop which I agreed to. Upon arrival I opened the door, left hand out the window and notified the officer that I was a CPL holder and I was unarmed and there were no firearms in the vehicle.

My daughter said Why did you say anything?” to which the officer replied: “Correct, unless he is in possession of a firearm he does not have to notify me but my screen shows that the car you are driving is owned by a CPL holder. Even though he is not carrying it puts me more at ease hearing that from him.”

Probably the major reason she didn’t get sent to juvenile court on minor I possession of tobacco products were my actions that night.

I always carry my CPL on top of my license, no way to forget informing the LEO now?