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Caught in a loop |
In TN, it's tied to your driver's license, not your plate, and while it used to be "may-notify" during a LEO encounter the statute was changed a few years ago to "shall-notify." Doesn't matter, I always notify as I'm handing they my license and permit. They ask me where it is, I usually tell them "backpack," or "3:20," and they respond with, "Thanks, don't reach for it," and we go about our business. not that I get pulled over very often. I think there was a huge to-do a few decades back because of the ultra-liberal Commercial Appeal here in the Memphis area. Y'see, HCP holder information used to be a matter of public record, so they decided it would be a great idea to print a copy of the names and addresses of the Memphis area list one day (you likely know where this is headed). "It's a matter of public record, and 'the people' have a right to know!" After a severe uptick in burglaries, the State was petitioned successfully to revisit the statutes regarding the HCP list and access to the list was severely restricted. "In order to understand recursion, you must first learn the principle of recursion." | |||
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I doubt Montana does, since conceal carry permits are no longer required in cities... it's always been legal to carry concealed out of city limits here. P220 Elite Full Size .45 | |||
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Long term ammoholic |
Arkansas is a yes! | |||
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I wonder if LEOs become more or less comfortable upon knowing that the driver has a permit or not. My perception is that LEO would be more comfortable knowing the driver has a permit. 1) knows that the driver is likely armed; 2) knows that the driver is likely okay - background checked. All kinds of unknowns if the driver does not have a permit. But I'm just speculating..... "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Thank you Very little |
You are not required to inform LE in Florida per law, they can ask, it's up to you to respond in kind. Pretty sure that it doesn't come up with DL information in Florida since its protected data by law. | |||
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Muzzle flash aficionado |
I'm a Texas CCL holder, and when I got my first issue the training stressed that the law required that a licensee must produce the CCL and tell the officer that there was a gun within reach IF THAT WERE THE CASE. If no gun was within reach, it was not necessary to produce the license or mention it to the officer. I've never had to worry about it. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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Ammoholic |
OL = Owner’s License ? ETA: It is my understanding that in CA the same is true. If your name is on the title for a vehicle, it links to your license and the fact that you have a permit is linked to your license. That falls down if your vehicle is owned by a company. Not sure what happens if the vehicle is owned by a trust with the driver’s name in the name of the trust. When I first got my permit, our Sheriff wanted us to always notify. On one renewal or another the message had changed to, “Use your judgement. You should always tell my deputies and it won’t be a problem. However some officers at some agencies may not respond well. I’ve not heard of any stories involving local agencies, but I have heard that folks have issues in San Francisco. | |||
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Do you have a reference for Tennessee being a "shall notify state"? Everything I've found says we are "may notify". | |||
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I Deal In Lead |
Same thing here in Arizona. | |||
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In NE a check of your DL or ID will reveal if you are a CCW permit holder. Also, NE you required to inform LE, EMS, and or Fire that you are carrying. If you able to. So, you are knocked out or badly injured some jackass can’t hang you out to dry because “he/she didn’t tell me”. | |||
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In my CA CCW classes, they tell us the rule is to disclose CCW to LEO. I assume it's tied my driver's license so the LEO will know if they run my DL number. I'd rather the LEO know that I'm the good guy. In my experience, the LEO is at my window before they run the license plate in the system. Therefore they wouldn't know if I'm CCW or whether I'm carrying. P229 | |||
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I was of the understanding that a run of your DL in MN showed that you had a Permit to Carry to the officer on his screen. “Let us dare to read, think, speak and write.” John Adams | |||
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Can't see how running the license plate is going to tell them that... who's to say who is driving the vehicle? DL could be a yes depending on the State. In S.C. you have to tell them if you are carrying but I've been known to remove my pistol and put it in the center console before the cop gets to the window...then I'm not concealed carrying and the gun is where it is supposed to be in S.C. if you don't have a permit. My Native American Name: "Runs with Scissors" | |||
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For real? |
In Ohio, it's tied to your operator's license. if the vehicle plate is in your name, we get the owner's info and if the owner has a permit. If you're not the owner of the plate, then we won't know. Not minority enough! | |||
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Serenity now! |
Same here in VA. ------------------------------------------------ 9/11/01 Never Forget "In valor there is hope" - Tacitus | |||
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semi-reformed sailor |
When I was policing, just assumed everyone was armed. NC is a must notify state, and whenever I had someone tell me, I said, kept it put away and it’ll be OK. Tried to teach that to all my rookies. Mostly told them, hey, this guy has jumped thru a bunch of hoops to get this CCW-he’s probably not the guy who is gonna freak out and blast ya… I also gave those people a warning if it was something I could do (speeding, seatbelt, stop sign) "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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I've done that before, w/bad results. I don't get pulled over very often if ever, but I never inform out of courtesy any longer, in case the officer in question isn't a normal person or in the wrong career. I've even gotten on the bad side while NOT informing in a non-informing state, was taunting me while figuring out if he was going to "haul me" in. Lovely. Lots of good officers, and some other types as well. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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Page late and a dollar short |
Didn’t realize that Michigan LEO’s no longer had that information available while running 10-28/10-29’s sorry, NMSP codes still come to mind after my Fire/EMS time there as being a small town we interacted with local, county and state on just about every call we ran on. My youngest was stopped by the city we lived in for tossing a cigarette out of the window of her car. Upon being pulled over she was found to be 17, a violation of state law. Officer wanted me at the location of the stop which I agreed to. Upon arrival I opened the door, left hand out the window and notified the officer that I was a CPL holder and I was unarmed and there were no firearms in the vehicle. My daughter said Why did you say anything?” to which the officer replied: “Correct, unless he is in possession of a firearm he does not have to notify me but my screen shows that the car you are driving is owned by a CPL holder. Even though he is not carrying it puts me more at ease hearing that from him.” Probably the major reason she didn’t get sent to juvenile court on minor I possession of tobacco products were my actions that night. I always carry my CPL on top of my license, no way to forget informing the LEO now? -------------------------------------—————— ————————--Ignorance is a powerful tool if applied at the right time, even, usually, surpassing knowledge(E.J.Potter, A.K.A. The Michigan Madman) | |||
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