This could have an impact on your health.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m1Qekrfs7w

Didn't President Trump issue an EO yesterday allowing production of incandescent lights?

What's the gist of this? I haven't got attention span time for 14 minutes of medical-ese. I'm guessing it has something to do with Vitamin D production in the body? Drink more milk and get out in the sun more.



And I thought incandescents were supposed to have been phased out years ago. After the flop that was compact fluorescents, AFAIC LEDs have supplanted incandescents anyway. It has been uncounted years since I've had to replace a LED home lighting bulb. None but the cheapest flashlights use incans any more, either.

Need more IR light in your house? Use candles for illumination. Has the additional benefit of putting more CO2 in the atmosphere to cause more robust plant growth. Win, win!

^^^ Good for plants. Not good for humans.

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Use candles for illumination. Has the additional benefit of putting more CO2 in the atmosphere ...

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Didn't President Trump issue an EO yesterday allowing production of incandescent lights?

Good golly, I hope he did!

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What's the gist of this? I haven't got attention span time for 14 minutes of medical-ese.

I don't blame you. I don't care to spend my time on most YouTube! videos, either.

From the Brave AI:

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The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) has established new energy conservation standards for general service lamps, which will take effect starting July 25, 2028. These standards require that all newly produced or imported general service lamps meet a minimum efficacy of 120 lumens per watt, significantly increasing from the previous standard of 45 lumens per watt.

This new requirement aims to phase out less efficient compact fluorescent lamps (CFLs) and promote the use of more energy-efficient LED bulbs.

Consumers can continue using products purchased or manufactured before July 2028, but manufacturers and retailers will need to comply with the new standards for any lamps produced or imported after this date.

Unfortunately, it’s not as easy as an executive order to bring back incan bulbs but as the article states, it is doable.

https://inside.lighting/news/2...ndescents-arent-back

Rumors of lifted incandescent bulb bans are inaccurate; standards remain unchanged


Confusion has arisen over President Trump’s recent wave of executive orders, with false reports spreading that the ban on incandescent light bulbs in the United States has been reversed.

Much of the conversation has revolved around a January 20, 2025, executive order titled "Unleashing American Energy," which references consumer choice in goods and appliances, including light bulbs. However, it is essential to clarify that this executive order does not remove or overturn the existing federal efficiency standards governing light bulbs.

The current efficiency standards, which effectively prohibit the manufacture and sale of traditional incandescent bulbs for general lighting purposes, are enforced under the Energy Policy and Conservation Act (EPCA) and strengthened through DOE regulations following the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007.

These laws set a minimum efficiency requirement of 45 lumens per watt for general service lighting, a threshold that traditional incandescent bulbs do not meet. This requirement is based on statutory authority, meaning an executive order alone cannot repeal it. However, the Department of Energy (DOE) has the ability to modify efficiency standards through its regulatory rulemaking process, subject to public comment and review.



Scope and Implications of the Executive Order

The executive order does express a policy intent to promote consumer choice and review regulations affecting goods such as light bulbs. However, its provisions must operate within the boundaries of existing federal laws. Specifically:

The 45 lumens per watt standard remains in effect. While this requirement is established under federal law, the Department of Energy (DOE) can modify efficiency regulations through its rulemaking process, which includes public comment, regulatory review, and potential legal challenges. Congress could also change the law directly, but this is not likely or expected.​​​​​​​
Executive orders cannot override statutory requirements. They can direct federal agencies to review or adjust how regulations are implemented but cannot change the legal framework underpinning those regulations.​​​​​​​
Traditional incandescent bulbs are still non-compliant. Manufacturing or importing incandescent bulbs that do not meet the efficiency standard remains prohibited under federal law.


Two notable obstacles:

One angle the DOE could implement is an attempt to weaken the 45 lumens-per-watt standard by redefining 'general service lamps' (GSLs), similar to its 2019 efforts to exclude certain bulb types from regulation. For example, DOE could modify the scope of 'general service lamps' (GSLs) to further exclude additional categories of incandescent bulbs or limit future efficiency updates, allowing broader market availability.

Two notable obstacles exist:

The Energy Policy and Conservation Act (EPCA) requires that any new or revised efficiency standard must be technologically feasible, economically justified, and result in significant energy savings (42 U.S.C. § 6295(o)(2)).
The anti-backsliding provision in EPCA (42 U.S.C. § 6295(o)(1)) prohibits the DOE from weakening efficiency standards once they have been set unless a new, stronger justification is presented.
If deregulatory trends continue and gain support from the DOE and Congress, the regulatory framework may gradually evolve to adopt a more relaxed approach to efficiency standards.



Getting it Right

The suggestion that this executive order 'removes the ban' on incandescent bulbs with a simple stroke of Trump’s Sharpie misrepresents the scope of its impact. While the order reflects an intent to emphasize consumer choice, it does not repeal or invalidate the federal efficiency standards currently in place.

In the lighting industry, accurate interpretations of policy changes are critical to maintaining trust and ensuring businesses and consumers can make informed decisions. Mischaracterizations of regulatory changes risk creating confusion and may lead to unnecessary compliance concerns or strategic missteps.

Even if incandescent light bulbs were to make a regulatory comeback, it's hard to imagine a major lamp company investing significant resources into reviving old incandescent product lines, given the industry's evolution toward LED technology and the demand for highly efficient light sources.

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Use candles for illumination. Has the additional benefit of putting more CO2 in the atmosphere to cause more robust plant growth. Win, win!

For a win, win, win! Render the fat trimmed from your beef brisket into tallow and make your candles from the tallow. Tasty and illuminating.

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This new requirement aims to phase out less efficient compact fluorescent lamps (CFLs) and promote the use of more energy-efficient LED bulbs.

I sure don't have a problem doing away with CFL's.

Not that it needs to be done, but a mandate to warm the color of outdoor lights, would at least have some actual merit.

I don’t begrudge others their incandescent bulbs if that is what they want, but I won’t be switching back, even if they do return. I prefer to get the light without the heat. It was silly to outright ban incandescents though, and I’d be happy to see people being allowed to choose what they prefer again.

- Bret

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It was silly to outright ban incandescents though,

Exactly.
Much like the whole EV thing... let the market drive what gets built, rather than having .gov tell consumers what they'll be allowed to buy.

Here's something where incandescents suck: "trouble" lights, as they were/are called. I ditched them years ago, but inexplicably they are still around.



A plastic shield would invariably melt, and a metal one would get hot enough to burn you as well as shorting out battery terminals. If you didn't use a special "rough service" bulb, bulbs would burn out or break if you looked at them wrong. You could not use them around flammable fumes like gasoline. If the glass broke, the filament would keep burning for a split second and ignite the vapors. LED lights are far superior for this kind of work.

I think that modern LEDs are preferable to florescent and incandescent.

We have replaced all of our florescent bulbs in the horse barn with LED tubes. They are brighter, less sensitive to cold, and more reliable than the old florescent bulbs. Plus, they won't kill you if you break one.

As for the house, all interior and exterior (flood) lighting is now LED. Reliable, cost effective, and color tunable.

What's not to like?

I admit that the first generation LEDs kind of sucked, and didn't last, but the current ones are great.

For interior lighting, I strongly prefer incandescents. Before the idiotic Biden admin asshole move, I gathered up what I estimate to be 8 or 10 years worth of incandescent bulbs.

I despise the idiotic PC meddling of these woke imbeciles. The same with gas stoves. These people are too stupid to breathe. They need to mind their own fucking business, because they haven't the first clue.

I'm with you on gas stoves, but I have happily moved away from incandescent lighting.

I don't like the government telling me what I will use, but I do like using what works best for me.

The free market has delivered the reliability and consistency that the government mandated crap didn't have. Competition is good, and yields better products.

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I'm with you on gas stoves, but I have happily moved away from incandescent lighting.

I don't like the government telling me what I will use, but I do like using what works best for me.

The free market has delivered the reliability and consistency that the government mandated crap didn't have.....

I have to agree. I posted earlier of trying a CFL and hating it. With the talk of banning incandescent bulbs I stocked up on various wattages and still have boxes of them. All lighting in my shop, garage, and out building are LED and I'm transitioning to LED in my house because they use far less electricity, last much longer, and I see no disadvantage.