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Took the pup to the vet, he hates the slick floor, and he slipped his collar. First time I’ve had that happen in. After we played in traffic and got him safely secured, we are shopping for a slip proof system.

He is getting double checked for a micro chip now as well and a new one if needed.

He’s super good about everything else, but hates the hardwood floors. Being a northern breed, recall isn’t really a thing with them.




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There are harnesses that include a strap that attaches to the collar to prevent this sort of thing. Seems more effective than a dual leash contraption. The ones I've seen of the latter appear to be designed to walk two dogs on one lead, and the legs would be too long for a collar+harness setup. I wouldn't worry so much about the collar, a harness provides much more security, and you can attach the ID tag, license, etc. directly to the harness or put them on a carabiner and connect as appropriate.
 
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Go to Strapworks.com You should be able to build what you need with their components. I build my own rifle slings with their stuff. Good service, too.


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Imo, this is the best option for your dog. We have GSD‘s and so pinch collars are normal. We even have the pinch collars that are sewn into a piece of nylon so they don’t come apart.


Even so, we used 2-clip leashes on all dogs, attaching their regular collar and the prong collar.


I believe we got ours from Leerburg in Wisconsin.

That may very well save your dogs life some day.


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Btw, You can teach great recall w/ time and dedication using operative conditioning. See Michael Ellis as a guest trainer at Leerburg on YouTube.





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If our small dog was determined, he could get out of every leash or harness we tried. He'd just turn backwards, lowered his head an pull out. We finally tried the one linked below and it works pretty well. When the dog pulls, it puts pressure around their midsection with very little on the neck. There are several companies that make these so maybe there are some less expensive offerings.

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I have used this for about 15 years on my Beagles. Beagles have thick necks so they slip out of other harness

https://ruffwear.com/products/web-master-harness


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One of our dogs is an escape artist that can get out of almost anything at the blink of an eye.

The one she can't slip out of is a pinch or prong collar. Get one a little on the large size so you can remove links to make the perfect size. Sized correctly it doesn't choke or really pinch but she seems to sense it's futile and pulls much less in normal walking too.


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I know this can be a contentious subject so I’ll tread lightly…


IMO, prong colors are much better at protecting your dogs neck than a regular collar.

There are a few videos on YouTube that will show a human wearing both on a leash.

I guarantee you’ll prefer the prong collar not crushing your larynx when you pull.

Ymmv

https://leerburg.com/prongleashes.htm

The thing about harnesses for working dogs is that encourages them to pull. It’s a self-reinforcing behavior. In my experience people often buy harnesses for the exact wrong reason. They have a role, but it’s not well understood by the general population IME.

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Check out the various slip leads on Gun Dog Supply. Mendota makes some great leads
https://www.gundogsupply.com/s...tml?query=slip+leads


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I use this one. Impossible to get out of, comfortable for the dog.

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While a dog probably won’t slip loose from a prong collar, the flat metal eye on the prong collar can slip through the bolt snap on the leash. It’s happened a half dozen times with our dog with different leashes. All had a bolt snap.


This is why leashes with two bolt snaps, one for the prong collar and a longer one for a regular collar like the ones linked above, make sense. If something happens with the prong collar, you still have the regular one as a back up.
 
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Thanks all! I’ll look at these.

I’m not opposed to prong coolers for the short duration need. He does great on lead and harness, he’s not a puller. I’m sure it’s possible but it’s very rare in my experience and the rescues we’ve worked with, to have a Malamute or Husky to have any sort of reliable recall. They are more like cats in that regard.

We found a combo slip lead and anti reverse harness we’ll try while we research.




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Take a look at "2 hounds design" and see if you can use one of theirs. Reasonably priced, speedy delivery. I guarantee your dog won't slip out of it. Has front under head/chin connection and another one on top. They also offer leashes to go with them.
 
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I know this can be a contentious subject so I’ll tread lightly…


IMO, prong colors are much better at protecting your dogs neck than a regular collar.

There are a few videos on YouTube that will show a human wearing both on a leash.

I guarantee you’ll prefer the prong collar not crushing your larynx when you pull.

Ymmv

https://leerburg.com/prongleashes.htm

The thing about harnesses for working dogs is that encourages them to pull. It’s a self-reinforcing behavior. In my experience people often buy harnesses for the exact wrong reason. They have a role, but it’s not well understood by the general population IME.


Having many Siberians over the years, I will agree about harnesses encouraging most,not all dogs to pull.

I use two collars on my dogs when I walk them.. One with the ID tag, and another secured more snug.

I loop the leash around the more secure collar and leaving some slack, tie a knot, then clip the fastener.


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Reading your story I wondered if you’d ever tried a martingale style collar? They don’t slip out of those, and they’re very commonly used for all sighthounds.


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