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Keto - short for the medical condition ketosis - is a way to lose weight but it's not sustainable or the lifestyle change people need as part of a healthy living.

Instead, something like Weight Watchers is lifestyle change where you get to eat whatever you want so long as you don't exceed your daily point total.

Keto is all the rage these days, just like many other similar fads but you need a lifestyle change for the balance of your life.


Yes. You have to change your habits. Take that from someone who has been struggling with that forever.




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I've never had to lose a large amount of weight, but have definitely noticed that it goes on more easily with each passing year. Here's another way to look at it:

Eliminate one unhealthy thing that you eat on a frequent basis and see how it goes. One handful of chips a day is 170 calories. That will convert to a gain or loss of about 20 pounds over the course of a year.
 
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Check out dietdoctor.com - part of their emphasis is on real food rather than someone's packaged stuff. I pretty much eat what I like and stay in ketosis; can't handle tracking either carbs or calories. Over ten months eating low carb/high fat I've lost about 40 pounds and have gotten more relaxed about the rules. It's been a pretty easy lifestyle change for me, although tougher when away from home.
 
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I'm down 55 pounds since March 17, 2019 using the Keto diet. Still a long ways to go.

I don't agree with those that say it isn't a lifestyle change that can be done long term. It certainly can and many people have done so.

It has been the easiest "diet" I've tried in my 52 years.


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I've been doing 'keto' since January 2018. I'm down 135lbs.

Its not really hardcore keto and I've stopped referring to myself as being in keto. I just tell people that magically if you stop eating junk, you lose weight.

I tried doing all the keto planning, special keto recipes to mimic normal dishes. It was okay but got boring and tedious pretty quickly.

Its about divorcing pleasure from food. Eat to live, don't live to eat. You can still enjoy food and I do and I love grilling and smoking meat but the days of me pounding candy during/after a stressful day are gone.

Here's what I did:

Skip breakfast

Eat salad for lunch

Eat meat and veggies for supper

Snack on almonds, quest bars, homemade beef jerky occasionally

Its really as simple as that. I do not have a cheat day. The closest I come to cheating is I eat sushi rarely. That's my 'cheat meal' and it works great cause it's still healthy and not something you can just eat tons of.

Drink lots and lots of water. I drink 2.5L of seltzer every day at minimum.


Like scurvy I've lost 121 since april 5 2018.

Like scurvy I also no longer consider myself on a "diet"

Like scurvy I just eat a salad for lunch with minced leftover meat or 2 cans of tuna everyday. I eat meat/fish/poultry and high fiber vegies for dinner.

My treats are protein shakes with coco powder and stevia, or nature valley protien bars (9 net carbs), when I want salty I go with sunflower/pumpkin seeds. Nuts can easily be a carb overload because the serving size is too small and calorie count high.

Like scurvy I also drink 4 to 6 17oz bottles of water a day.

I agree with scurvy. It is much easier then all the hype over keto. You simply have to relearn your eating habits. After over a year, it's just daily routine of eating meals that are quality.

What is amazing to me is this.

You can put a candy bar in my hand, and I wont even think twice about eating it. Nothing in me desires it. Put put a steak in front of me and my mouth waters.




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What is amazing to me is this.

You can put a candy bar in my hand, and I wont even think twice about eating it. Nothing in me desires it. Put put a steak in front of me and my mouth waters.


100%

Your mind and body reprogram themselves and adapt. I have no desire for any carbs anymore. The only reason I have rice is cause I love sushi, the rice is just a necessary component.

I can find something to eat at any restaurant (Chinese is by far the hardest though), either a salad or chicken wings or something. Most places are more than happy to give you extra veggies or a side salad instead of the starch that comes with your dinner.

The key is to make it work for you, don't work for it. I think a lot of people get burnt out spending time and effort making low carb version of food they used to love eating. Just not worth it imho.
 
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Keto for over a year.

65 pounds and holding.

Easy peasy. I abstain from sugar like an alcoholic. It was nothing less than a lifestyle change for me.




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I've been on Keto with the wife since mid-January. She's down 50 lbs and I'm down 40 (from 226 to 186). That's not what I consider the most important part though. In addition to the weight, I had problems with arthritis in my feet. That's gone. I had breathing issues (bronchial tubes). Gone. I couldn't do simple tasks without getting out of breath. Gone. I had frequent migraines. Gone. Acid reflux at night. Gone. I had terrible heartburn if I didn't eat in the morning. Gone.

Basically, I wanted to lose a bit of weight but found that I just feel great.

We also do 16/8 intermittent fasting which is basically skipping breakfast. We started that because we just aren't hungry in the AM. As stated above, I can't be tempted by sugary treats. I find that I'm in control of my stomach and not the other way around.

My total cholesterol and LDL are high at the moment (triglycerides, HDL and total/HDL ratio are excellent though). While transitioning, I did get awful smelling sweat and bad breath. I guess that's all the bad stuff that happened.

I get a lot of funny naysaying when I mention keto. I find it humorous when a 400 lbs guy tells me keto is unhealthy. Carb up, slim.
 
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When I go on a lake vacation with the family each year I don’t just fall off the wagon, I do a triple lindy straight into a pile of junk food. By the end of the week I’m getting heartburn and headaches from the sugar and processed foods. I actually looked forward to being back home and eating mostly clean. I don’t count calories and go strict keto, just fats, protein and vegetable carbs. It’s amazing how fast weight starts dropping off and how much better I feel after a few days back on the wagon.
 
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Weight gain/loss is hormonal, not thermogenic. People think of the body as a simple engine, thermodynamics. Instead it’s like a city with millions of engines, refineries, storage tanks etc.

The easiest way to understand it for me is the inverse relationship between insulin and glucagon. What they do, and what signals them. Intermittent fasting is also a key component to maximize the low sugar lifestyle.

Btw, there is very little difference metabolically between a cookie, a piece of bread, a banana, and an apple. Healthy sugar is still sugar. Once I bought in to that, I started losing weight.


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I've been on Keto with the wife since mid-January. She's down 50 lbs and I'm down 40 (from 226 to 186). That's not what I consider the most important part though. In addition to the weight, I had problems with arthritis in my feet. That's gone. I had breathing issues (bronchial tubes). Gone. I couldn't do simple tasks without getting out of breath. Gone. I had frequent migraines. Gone. Acid reflux at night. Gone. I had terrible heartburn if I didn't eat in the morning. Gone.

Basically, I wanted to lose a bit of weight but found that I just feel great.

We also do 16/8 intermittent fasting which is basically skipping breakfast. We started that because we just aren't hungry in the AM. As stated above, I can't be tempted by sugary treats. I find that I'm in control of my stomach and not the other way around.

My total cholesterol and LDL are high at the moment (triglycerides, HDL and total/HDL ratio are excellent though). While transitioning, I did get awful smelling sweat and bad breath. I guess that's all the bad stuff that happened.

I get a lot of funny naysaying when I mention keto. I find it humorous when a 400 lbs guy tells me keto is unhealthy. Carb up, slim.


Remnant Cholesterol is the number I track. Cholesterol can be higher on a LCHF diet. New research is showing as long as your body is using it as designed to transport fat for fuel around your body and using it up for the most part it not an issue. Take the total and subtract the LDL and HDL to get your number. Under 17 is what you are shooting for. Mine was 8 last checkup. Check out Dave Feldman he has done a lot of research on the topic.


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Remnant Cholesterol is the number I track. Cholesterol can be higher on a LCHF diet. New research is showing as long as your body is using it as designed to transport fat for fuel around your body and using it up for the most part it not an issue. Take the total and subtract the LDL and HDL to get your number. Under 17 is what you are shooting for. Mine was 8 last checkup. Check out Dave Feldman he has done a lot of research on the topic.


267 total
-188 LDL
-57 HDL
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16

So, I'm good then?

My Apolipoprotein B is 135. Any concern there?
 
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IANAD, but I would inquire with your medical professional about your total cholesterol and your LDL...both look high. HDL looks good and if you have your triglycerides number, they should be <150. I've heard about this "remnant" or "residual" cholesterol, but I'd have to say you need to keep the big picture in mind as well. JMHO...



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Easier would be to eat most of your calories in the morning or mid day. Calories consumed at night are primarily converted to stored fat. Reduce carbs overall to a max of 20% of your diet, 10% would be even better.

This is sustainable and effective.


This is wrong in so many ways/ Thousands of Gym Rats wake up every 2-3 hours to have a protein drink.
The Keto diet and the like are all meant as a short term, whatever that is, quick start.
 
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267 total
-188 LDL
-57 HDL
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16

So, I'm good then?

My Apolipoprotein B is 135. Any concern there?


My HDL is higher but other than that our numbers are similar. Eat plenty of good fats not just meat and cheese. Opinions on Cholesterol are changing but it is slow going and Doctors are still quick to prescribe drugs. I have a wellness exam with bloodwork yearly. If all my numbers are good and markers are good I am not sweating the higher LDL. Definitely talk to your doc about it. Mine had suggested getting on meds to get cholesterol under 200 but I refused.


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My HDL is higher but other than that our numbers are similar. Eat plenty of good fats not just meat and cheese.
What are some options for good fats? I really don't like fatty meats and I won't eat eggs.
 
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My HDL is higher but other than that our numbers are similar. Eat plenty of good fats not just meat and cheese.
What are some options for good fats? I really don't like fatty meats and I won't eat eggs.


Olive Oil
Flaxseed Oil
Fish Oil
Walnuts, Cashews, etc.

To name a few.
 
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What are some options for good fats? I really don't like fatty meats and I won't eat eggs.


The best are, in no particular order...

Olive Oil
MCT Oil
Coconut Oil
Avocado Oil
Grass Fed Butter/GHEE

Then there are fatty foods like eggs, avocados, nuts and seeds, hard cheeses, heavy cream, etc.


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Olive Oil
Flaxseed Oil
Fish Oil
Walnuts, Cashews, etc.

To name a few.


I would say no to cashews but Almonds, pecans, macadamia everything else above, coconut oil, 100% dark chocolate, avocados, raw almond butter. Watch the nuts for added oils that a lot of the roasted varieties have.


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We do cook with coconut oil, butter and olive oil. I'm sure most of my fat intake comes from cheese though.
 
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