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Yale student accidentally gets Illegal Father detained by Immigration

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October 25, 2017, 07:53 AM
hile
Yale student accidentally gets Illegal Father detained by Immigration
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Originally posted by SpinZone:
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he has lived illegally since 1988.


father’s attorney and interpreter


if you have lived here since 1988 and you need an interpreter......


Needing a terp despite living in country for some time isn't necessarily indicative of a problem. My wife is from NZ. After her grandfather died in the 70s, her grandmother moved from Fiji to NZ and lived with my wife and MIL. She only spoke various Indian Languages, and some English. Not fluent in English by the time I met her (at age 95 or so, some 30 years after moving to NZ). Yeah, she needed a terp (usually her daughter or grand daughter), but she was also already a retiree by that point.

Funny story, one of the English words she knew was 'hospital'. My MIL was an MD. It got to the point that the blood bank would call reminding my wife that she was eligible to donate again, grandma would hear "Hospital" and "Sushma", not get the rest of the conversation and freak the fuck out. Ended up telling the blood bank to quit calling.
October 25, 2017, 08:33 AM
ensigmatic
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Originally posted by SpinZone:
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he has lived illegally since 1988.


father’s attorney and interpreter

if you have lived here since 1988 and you need an interpreter......

My feelings exactly.

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Originally posted by hile:
Needing a terp despite living in country for some time isn't necessarily indicative of a problem. My wife is from NZ. After her grandfather died in the 70s, her grandmother moved from Fiji to NZ and lived with my wife and MIL.

Just slightly >< different situations, don't you think?



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October 25, 2017, 08:46 AM
parabellum
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Originally posted by hile:
Needing a terp despite living in country for some time isn't necessarily indicative of a problem.
Thirty freaking years this guy has been here. It's a problem. Don't kid yourself.

It pisses me off to hear stuff like this. Thirty yesrs in a country and you can't speak the language? The phrase "Fuck you" comes to mind.
October 25, 2017, 12:59 PM
tgtshuter
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Originally posted by parabellum:
quote:
Originally posted by hile:
Needing a terp despite living in country for some time isn't necessarily indicative of a problem.
Thirty freaking years this guy has been here. It's a problem. Don't kid yourself.

It pisses me off to hear stuff like this. Thirty yesrs in a country and you can't speak the language? The phrase "Fuck you" comes to mind.


A grandma living out her years with family is way different than someone who spent 30 years in the work-a-day world, having children, etc.!!

Along with the above, the words stupid and/or lazy come to mind.
October 25, 2017, 01:10 PM
xl_target
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Originally posted by Skull Leader:
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was detained while in the process of getting his green card


That's funny, becasue he would have to leave the country to get his green card.

Not necessarily.
October 25, 2017, 01:12 PM
k5blazer
I don't think that it's laziness or stupidity. He just doesn't want to speak English. Probably knows some, hell he has been here 30 years, just doesn't want to speak it. Part of the Mexican arrogance and hatred of the US.
October 25, 2017, 01:15 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by xl_target:
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Originally posted by Skull Leader:
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was detained while in the process of getting his green card


That's funny, becasue he would have to leave the country to get his green card.

Not necessarily.


Maybe you can then explain the circumstances on how anyone can properly obtain a green card without having to return to his or her country of origin. I'd really be curious.


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October 25, 2017, 01:23 PM
gasche
Can we “reimagine” our income also?
This chick is a trip!
October 25, 2017, 02:26 PM
Crom



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October 25, 2017, 02:41 PM
Marlin Fan
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Originally posted by MRMATT:
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Viviana, who is majoring in ethnicity, race and migration


WTF kind of major is that?


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October 25, 2017, 03:00 PM
wishfull thinker
This is my favorite thread today. Even the parts that pissed me off made me smile.


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October 25, 2017, 03:19 PM
Icabod
She's an "anchor baby." She had to wait until age 21 to sponser her father. I'm not sure what her mother's status is. As I read it, she can do this but her father faces a ten year ban before he can re-enter the US.

"In order to apply for such an option, the parent of a so-called anchor baby would need to do all of the following.

Wait for his or her child to reach the age of 21.
Leave the United States.
Return to their home country.
Have their child begin the lengthy process of applying for a family reunification immigration request.
Clear consular interviews and a U.S. State Department background check. (One or both would very likely provide evidence that said parent, at some point, lived in the United States illegally -- long enough for that "anchor baby" to be conceived or born. And despite widespread belief to the contrary, there is indeed a penalty for that.)"

https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.8f52c2a2318f



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October 25, 2017, 06:20 PM
DennisM
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by xl_target:
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Originally posted by Skull Leader:
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was detained while in the process of getting his green card


That's funny, becasue he would have to leave the country to get his green card.

Not necessarily.


Maybe you can then explain the circumstances on how anyone can properly obtain a green card without having to return to his or her country of origin. I'd really be curious.


Section 245 Adjustment of Status. Ideally you'd be here in a lawful but non-immigrant status (B-1, B-2, E, F, H, etc) but illegal entrants and overstays can also apply to adjust. An I-130 (Petition) needs filed by the USC spouse or parent (or, I suppose, child.)

Pretty much routine.
October 27, 2017, 12:18 PM
xl_target
What Dennis said.
You can come in as a tourist or on a student visa, get married and apply for a green card.
You don't have to leave the country.
October 27, 2017, 12:31 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by xl_target:
What Dennis said.
You can come in as a tourist or on a student visa, get married and apply for a green card.
You don't have to leave the country.


In my experience, one must return to his or her country in order to finalize the process. You can't just be here illegally and apply for a green card and not have to return home to have your final interview at the US embassy there. That's the way it works. If some are somehow avoiding that process, then he or she is getting special treatment which is a load of bull.


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October 27, 2017, 12:52 PM
TMats
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Viviana, who is majoring in ethnicity, race and migration

You go to Yale and that’s what you major in?!? What’s the job market for someone with a degree like that?...



Oh wait. She gets a law degree and just becomes a professional pain-in-the-ass.


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November 02, 2017, 12:37 PM
xl_target
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by xl_target:
What Dennis said.
You can come in as a tourist or on a student visa, get married and apply for a green card.
You don't have to leave the country.


In my experience, one must return to his or her country in order to finalize the process. You can't just be here illegally and apply for a green card and not have to return home to have your final interview at the US embassy there. That's the way it works. If some are somehow avoiding that process, then he or she is getting special treatment which is a load of bull.

If you're here on a student or tourist visa, you're not here illegally.
November 02, 2017, 01:02 PM
Jelly
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Originally posted by MRMATT:
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Viviana, who is majoring in ethnicity, race and migration



WTF kind of major is that?
From the sounds of it, the kind that gets Illegal Father detained by Immigration. Big Grin
November 02, 2017, 01:04 PM
Scoutmaster
quote:
Originally posted by TMats:
quote:
Viviana, who is majoring in ethnicity, race and migration

You go to Yale and that’s what you major in?!? What’s the job market for someone with a degree like that?...



Oh wait. She gets a law degree and just becomes a professional pain-in-the-ass.


On one hand, that is so ridiculous. On the other hand, that is so real. I don't know if I should laugh or cry (maybe both).




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November 02, 2017, 01:14 PM
Scoutmaster
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Originally posted by k5blazer:
I don't think that it's laziness or stupidity. He just doesn't want to speak English. Probably knows some, hell he has been here 30 years, just doesn't want to speak it. Part of the Mexican arrogance and hatred of the US.


You may be correct.

A college prof in the room before me was teaching a class involving Hispanic culture. From leftovers at the end of class (that he didn't clean up), it was clear he was teaching hate America and Hispanic dominance over the US.




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