More interesting history coming out of Canadian archives.

What Hitler had planned for North America: Canada's archive acquires Nazi research book

Honestly it made my hair stand up a little to read they had a plan to "round up" Jews, minorities, etc. in Canadian and American cities. Because you know what they would have done after they rounded them up.

The show "The Man in the High Castle" does a great job at depicting the existence we would have had if evil had prevailed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLyla-hO3xE

To paraphrase Rick Blaine, there are parts of the United States I wouldn't recommend they try to invade.

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Originally posted by Ronin1069:
Honestly it made my hair stand up a little to read they had a plan to "round up" Jews, minorities, etc. in Canadian and American cities. Because you know what they would have done after they rounded them up.

Based on what happened elsewhere, none of that would have been a surprise.
Most of the Jews who were murdered by the Nazis and their willing helpers were in the conquered territories.

Hitler could not cross 20 miles of the English Channel.

There is NO WAY he could have crossed the Atlantic.

NONE.

All this speculation is meaningless.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
To paraphrase Rick Blaine, there are parts of the United States I wouldn't recommend they try to invade.

I was thinking as I scrolled down this thread, what a massacre they'd have faced here. He was one delusional mother fucker if he honestly thought Germany could have occupied this nation.

In WWI when Germany asked Mexico's help in the Zimmermann telegram, Mexico responded, in part, "Even if by some chance Mexico had the military means to win a conflict against the United States and reclaim the territories in question, Mexico would have severe difficulty accommodating and pacifying a large English-speaking population that was better supplied with arms than most civilian populations."

That situation was greatly magnified by 1945.

I agree, Germany taking the US was pure fantasy.

If Hitler would have put a billion Marks into an atomic program instead of a rocket program, there wouldn’t be such confidence in the U.S. remaining unconquered. Although, to be fair, the British gave the manhattan project a huge boost, an advantage the Germans may not have had. If only the NSDAP weren’t so crazy that they drove off or killed all the Jews who were smart enough to build the bomb, the world would look a lot different today.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
To paraphrase Rick Blaine, there are parts of the United States I wouldn't recommend they try to invade.

One of the best movies ever made.



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Just now reading Victor Davis Hanson's "The Second World Wars" (great. read on the overview of the war, not details of battles, etc.)

Hitler never stood a chance, once he invaded Poland and drew Britain and France into the war. An invasion of England would have failed, the Germans were not prepared for it.

Then he invaded the Soviet Union, and that ate up the Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe.

The other huge mistake Hitler made was declaring war on the United States on December 11, 1941. Churchill knew they would survive then.

Oh, they had "Amerika" bombers on the drawing board, but we had the B-29 in production.

The Germans could not have successfully invaded and occupied the U.S. or Canada. Same with the Japanese all for a number of reasons. This sort of thing obviously had to be considered as a possibility by the defending countries of course just in case. The U.S. military did not think that Pearl Harbor could successfully be attacked either even though Billy Mitchell had predicted it years earlier and they tried to silence him. If things had worked out a bit differently the Axis powers would no doubt have made the attempt.

Agree that if they invested and won the Atom bomb race it could have been a very different story. Suppose they slithered some subs off the American coast and lobbed say 2 or 3 nukes at NY, DC, LA. Then they threaten to continue unless we surrender. What would we have done it we did not yet have the atom bomb and they bombed more cities? Thank god we never had to find out.

They never had the manpower to subdue the US at the best of times (for them). Thank God.

They couldn't even get across the English Channel. The Atlantic, just a fantasy.

Germany was only ever good at invading it's immediate neighbors.

70 years ago, I'd bet that better than 90% of the population would have fought them off.

Today? I'd bet that number is closer to 50%.

Crazy, ain't it?

The technology the Nazis had on the drawing board was fascinating. Europe was probably fortunate the war ended before it came to fruition.

I agree with Cruiser68band jigray3. The very fact that Germany had made such advances in atomic energy was the reason Einstein and others wrote to FDR about the possible atomic threat from Hitler. Had the Germans continued their research what could have happened if they developed their bomb first? Even Japan was working on an atom bomb and the measures taken at the end of the war showed that America had to take the threat seriously. In a war you have to be careful of even things that may seem unlikely but still possible.

Thank God that Hitler was impatient.