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Regardless of your views of Black Rifle Coffee, you can't deny that they've found success and they employ a fair amount of people to include veterans; with that success comes the expectations for growth and expansion. Continued maturation of a company requires additional investment and capitol, enter the world of big finance.

They don't like the image.
They don't like certain words.
They find various associations highly risky.

How many other veteran-owned companies have faced such financial obstacles? If you're based in a 'Red State' do you face more discrimination when meeting with financiers?

A Socially Conscious but Politically Incorrect Company
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A Socially Conscious but Politically Incorrect Company
Black Rifle Coffee seeks to help veterans, but finance and law firms deemed it a ‘reputational risk.’


You might call Black Rifle Coffee Co. a socially conscious enterprise. “This is a veterans’ corporation,” founder and CEO Evan Hafer, a former Green Beret, says in a Zoom interview. More than half of Black Rifle’s employees have served in the military or are family of veterans. In 2021 the company put $5.3 million in shares toward starting the BRCC Fund, a charity dedicated to helping wounded or traumatized veterans and their families. That was on top of $1.2 million in charitable contributions and $3 million worth of coffee and related products to active-duty military and first responders.

But Mr. Hafer says Black Rifle struggled to find banks and law firms to help it arrange an initial public offering. Since he founded the company in 2014, companies have told him that it was “too irreverent” and poses “reputational risk.”

You can see why Black Rifle wouldn’t be everyone’s cup of tea. Its blends include AK-47 and Silencer Smooth, and its social media presence is colorful, to say the least. The company’s YouTube channel features a shooting contest that ends with Mr. Hafer trying to get a bull’s-eye after taking a direct shot of bear spray to the eyes and a video titled “Could You Be a Pregnant Man?” Mr. Hafer’s personal politics have also drawn outrage from the media—he voted for Donald Trump twice—as has the company’s popularity with some controversial figures on the right. Kyle Rittenhouse was photographed wearing a Black Rifle T-shirt. But none of this seems to have hurt the company’s revenue, which reached $233.1 million last year.

Mr. Hafer thinks the numbers should be evidence enough that Black Rifle’s reputation isn’t a material risk. But his company “started hitting a lot of resistance” from high-level finance companies and law firms, although they claimed they were interested in working with veteran-run corporations.

In 2019 and 2020, a Black Rifle spokeswoman says, company leaders were talking to Chase, Bank of America and Macquarie Group about raising capital. After initially showing interest, all three companies declined to work with Black Rifle, citing the company’s image. In 2018 Black Rifle had tried to open an account at a Chase branch in San Antonio and had been turned away over reputational concerns. The spokeswoman says that Macquarie was particularly fixated on the name of its in-house magazine, Coffee or Die, which covers military issues and won the Military Reporters & Editors Association’s 2022 journalism contest for overseas coverage.

Bank of America and Chase declined to comment. Macquarie said in an email: “We take into account a broad range of factors in making financing and investment decisions. We do not comment on confidential commercially sensitive discussions, including those that did not move beyond a very preliminary stage like this one.”

Black Rifle hit similar roadblocks in 2019 and 2020 with Skadden Arps, Latham & Watkins and Simpson Thacher & Bartlett. All three law firms passed on working with the coffee company because of its image. According to the Black Rifle spokeswoman, Latham & Watkins said that its reputational risk committee thought no one from top law schools would be willing to work at the firm if it took on Black Rifle as a client, especially because its name included the word “rifle.” The name “is an homage to the service rifle,” Mr. Hafer says. Like the guns he taught special-operations soldiers to shoot, he says, coffee is “lifesaving equipment.”

Simpson Thacher declined to comment. Skadden Arps and Latham & Watkins didn’t respond to requests for comment.

Despite these obstacles, Black Rifle is thriving. The company went public in February through a special-purpose acquisition merger with SilverBox Engaged Merger Corp and this summer rolled out marketing partnerships with the Dallas Cowboys and Amazon Prime Video.

Yet Mr. Hafer worries what the seemingly arbitrary treatment he experienced will mean for other veterans. “I think it’s going to be really important for those guys—men and women both—to understand, these are the types of doors that are going to be slammed in your face if you’re not conforming to a very specific narrative,” he says. “I don’t want them to go through some of the same issues that we’ve had to go through to get access to capital.”

Ms. Keller is an assistant editorial features editor at the Journal.
 
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Prejudice exists everywhere. The name would be a problem with the WOKE crowd. Why are they dealing with white shoe law firms?? You almost need an introduction to deal with that crowd. Sort of like joining a country club that has a 500 thousand intiation fee.
I live in the Deep South and veteran owned firms do fine. It ultimately boils down to the individuals involved.
 
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It would help if they wouldn’t alienate their base. Hafer is a multi time democratic donor, and the way they handled the Rittenhouse situation did not sit well with much of the gun community

Hafer is no friend to the 2A community.


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It would help if they wouldn’t alienate their base. Hafer is a multi time democratic donor, and the way they handled the Rittenhouse situation did not sit well with much of the gun community

Hafer is no friend to the 2A community.

Commie coffee.


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Four decades, give or take, of corrupt foul educators infesting the system at all levels have produced effete socialistic perversions in all other institutions ranging from government agencies, to the legal system, to corporate America.
Disgusting.



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Aren’t they being sued for fraud during their IPO?
 
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Nah man, f this company and their product.


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It would help if they wouldn’t alienate their base. Hafer is a multi time democratic donor, and the way they handled the Rittenhouse situation did not sit well with much of the gun community

Hafer is no friend to the 2A community.


This, plus his coffee is very average.


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I hope they go out of business.


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I don't approve of blacklisting by financial institutions but I wouldn't lift a finger to help BRC.
 
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BRCC tried to eat their cake and have it, too. In an attempt to appease the left they offended many of the most loyal of their customer base. Predictably: The left still finds them offensive and now so does much of what otherwise would've been some of their most loyal customers. Added to that: By all accounts their coffee is mediocre, at best.

They really have only themselves to blame for the position in which they find themselves.



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Posers.

And I served with folks like this in the military.

Easy to spot when Dining-In...





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I try to seek out Vet owned / operated companies to do business with.
No BRCC for me though. And with 223M on the books, what kind of financing are they in need of?


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I respect what they have done for this country in serving it and I find them hilarious on YouTube but they fucked up when they donated to the Democrats.
They also fucked up in the handling of Rittenhouse. Burned both sides.
I tried their coffee and while decent, it was highly inconsistent. 2 bags of the same coffee and they were vastly different.
I wish no ill will on anyone but I also don't care about them.


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Posers.

And I served with folks like this in the military.

Easy to spot when Dining-In...



sigmonkey, I greatly respect your posts and seek them out... but you lost me on this one. Are you saying the BRCC guys didn't serve in the military and therefore posers (stolen valor) ... or just commenting that they are exploiting their military service and veterans' status to virtue signal their way into commercial/ financial success and success as social media influencers?

I'm not a regular coffee drinker so I don't buy their products, not a fan of some of the over-the-top marketing stunts they've pulled, and definitely don't agree with some of the statements and political positions and donations they've made (they seem to waffle, don't quite know where they stand, and looking to exploit both sides) ... but I, at least, respect their military service, and "poser" seems like strong wording.
 
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Are you saying the BRCC guys didn't serve in the military and therefore posers (stolen valor)


Definition of a Blue Falcon


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Definition of a Blue Falcon


Maybe my age as despite having several decades of service, this "Blue Falcon" business is new to me.



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Maybe my age as despite having several decades of service, this "Blue Falcon" business is new to me.


I always took it to mean one who struts around with their campaign ribbon, talking about their time “in theater,” when their plane did a touch-and-go at the airbase. Or anything similar.

It’s the reason I’ve resisted ever including myself with veterans, because I spent my entire nine years in the ARNG, notwithstanding my active duty time during Desert Storm (never left CONUS). It just never felt right.



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Are you saying the BRCC guys didn't serve in the military and therefore posers (stolen valor)


Definition of a Blue Falcon


Ahh, got it. Thanks for the link.

Hell, I've had co-workers with zero military experience that easily fit this description... and they were notorious ass kissers to boot. One particular one I'm thinking of 'blue falconed', slacked, back stabbed, and ass kissed his way into a promotion into management... so I don't think this behavior is limited to service in law enforcement or the military.
 
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