We cant be "policing" the entire city....

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Originally posted by sdy:

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"I'm not committing the murders and that's what people need to understand," Mayor Bernard C. "Jack" Young

good grief. I'm glad we got that clarified

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Originally posted by armadill0:
Baltimore is an "independent city" - it is not part of Baltimore County or the rest of the metro area which has a population of 2.8 million. It is like the "inner city" for the whole metro area.

Not to make excuses, but they don't get to include the low crime suburbs in their statistics like many other cities.

Baltimore "City" is 81 square miles.

Mesa, Arizona is 133 square miles.

Neither example is counting adjacent communities.

I grew up in Anne Arundel County and Prince Georges County. I'm FROM there. I grew up equidistant from Baltimore and Washington, D.C. It has been a hive of scum and villainy as long as I have been alive - and before.

I'm here now after a decade in Texas.

They did clean up and renovate the inner harbor there for a few years, but Democrats. Untold millions of Federal dollars and look at the scumbags and crooks they have running things. Elijah croaked, but now his fraud exercising wife is going to take his seat. The corruption in Baltimore is at all levels. I'd like to see them hit 350 murders and have a nuked dropped just to get a do over.

For fun, let's do Phoenix. No surrounding communities included. Also the only capital in America with over a million people - 5th largest city in the country surpassing Dallas. Over 500 square miles.

1.6 million people. 150 murders. (all numbers are approximate).

Almost three times the people as Baltimore. Half the murders.

Phoenix PD also had the most police shootings in 2018. They will bust a cap in that criminal ass. A few have been controversial - but complying with the officers commands and not being ig'nint goes a long way. (Channeling Chris Rock there)

The number is down significantly this year. Perhaps the message got out.

Oh, 2,900 officers. About 3/4 of Baltimore officer numbers, Baltimore has 1/3 of the people, 1/5 of the area and twice the murders.

Don't make me break out East St. Louis.

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Originally posted by GWbiker:

No silly gun control laws in Arizona (Mesa).

Isn't that something?

A short story.

Commuting into Phoenix M-F for years, I had a full-sized handgun on me or in the console with two extra magazines. A 12g riot pump or a Benelli M3 loaded with a bandolier with 25 shells (20 buckshot, 5 slugs) behind the driver seat and an AR-15 or AK-47 loaded with at least 300 rounds in spare magazines in the back.

One morning a few years back, a state trooper asked me:

Trooper: Do you have any weapons in the vehicle?

Me: Just me.

Trooper: What does that mean?

Me: The only weapon God ever made was man. And I have no desire at all to do any harm to you today.

Trooper: You know what I mean.

Me. Sure. I have a 1911 on my hip, loaded, one in the tube. An AR-15, Benelli M3 and a Sig P226 in the trunk, all loaded, chambers empty. You're actually safer now with me than before you pulled me over.

Trooper. Okay. Let me get your DL, registration and insurance. Don't touch anything.

Me: No reason to. You outrank me here. Here you go.

Trooper: You prior military?

Me: Yes sir.

Trooper: I'll be right back.

28 minutes later (you know he ran me good...):

Trooper: (Hands me a clipboard) Sign that.

Me: This doesn't look like a ticket. What is it?

Trooper: It's a warning. Slow down.

Me: Yes sir. Thank you.

Trooper: Have a good day.

Did you catch that? I tell him I'm loaded for Al-Qaeda - and his response is "Okay".

No pulling me out, disarming me, fondling my gear, unnecessary delay. Just checked my paperwork and character.

You have to love Arizona.

I joke that if things go south, I have more firepower than the first three cops that show up.

Maryland State Troopers beat my teenaged ass and dumped me on a road 27 miles from my house on a night so dark I couldn't see the road. It was a long walk to a streetlight. The Prince Georges County cops also kicked my ass a few times. No jail. They believed in hickory shampoo. Made me a believer, too. Shaped me right up. Got my affairs in order and enlisted.

I've been back in the mid-90's. It's only worse. All built up with government employees. Can't imagine it today. Unarmed? Not a chance.

Don’t they know that there is a law against murder? Does it keep people from killing other people? NO! Will more gun laws stop people from killing each other? NO! People are going to do what they are going to do and they don’t give a rats ass about laws. Stupid politicians!

So the mayor is screaming "Don't blame me!"

So what the hell is he doing to stop/reduce it?

But then, it is Baltimore.

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Originally posted by wingspar:
Don’t they know that there is a law against murder? Does it keep people from killing other people? NO! Will more gun laws stop people from killing each other? NO! People are going to do what they are going to do and they don’t give a rats ass about laws. Stupid politicians!

I've posted about this before-
You just don't understand the problem.

We NEED more laws! That will make everything better. Oh, you don't think so? We're going to make a law that says we need more laws, and anyone that doesn't think we need more laws goes to jail. Oh, not enough room in jail? Let that homicide offender go to make room for you.
In order to get these new laws we NEED, we're gonna need MONEY. SO, WE NEED YOUR MONEY to make all these new laws that are going to stop all this madness!

And I'm not being sarcastic, THIS IS HOW THESE POLITICIANS THINK!!!
At least the useless ones in Chicago and Illinois.

Here's the problem, the system is racist! And since racism is the cause, these people are victims and thus absolved of any responsibility for fixing the problem.

WARNING: Reading this may cause severe headaches.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/m...kkdgr23ji-story.html

Baltimore State’s Attorney Mosby: Flawed criminal justice system is black Americans’ biggest civil rights issue

By KEVIN RECTOR
BALTIMORE SUN |
NOV 16, 2019 | 6:50 PM

Baltimore State’s Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby on Saturday cited a flawed American criminal justice system as the single largest civil rights issue facing black residents in Maryland today, saying her office has taken strides toward reducing disparities but still has more to do.

“Black people are six times more likely to be arrested and become a part of the criminal justice system [than] whites," Mosby said at the fall symposium of the University of Baltimore Law Review, which was headlined, “400 Years: Slavery and the Criminal Justice System."

"You have an overmilitarization of police departments all across the country, racially unjust application of laws against poor black and brown people, [and] collateral consequences of these convictions that have kept black and brown people and communities [as] second-class citizens,” she said.

Her comments were just some of many Saturday — from prosecutors, defense attorneys, law students, academics and other community stakeholders — that sought to center the legacy of racial injustice in a conversation on how best to move Baltimore and Maryland forward.

As some of the most influential stakeholders in that system, Mosby said prosecutors like her have an obligation to reduce disparities by providing opportunities for young people before they come into contact with the system, alternatives for returning felons who are too often sidelined economically because of their criminal records, and means for seeking redress for those wrongfully accused or convicted.

Mosby cited efforts by her office to do all of the above, including her hosting of youth events, her decision to stop prosecuting marijuana possession in Baltimore, her successful push to vacate convictions that hinged on the word of corrupt police officers and her office’s Conviction Integrity Unit, which reviews past cases thrown into question by new evidence.

She said her approach differs from that of many other prosecutors in the country, but that addressing racial inequities built into the system is something all prosecutors should be doing, in part because it will ultimately contribute to public safety.

The Democrat’s comments were in contrast to a tough-on-crime platform Mosby ran on when she first sought office five years ago, and came as Baltimore nears the end of its fifth consecutive year with 300 or more homicides.

At the law school forum, Mosby was joined on a panel — titled “Collaborative Methods to Reduce Mass Incarceration” — by Baltimore Public Defender Kirsten Downs, Democratic Prince George’s County State’s Attorney Aisha Braveboy and Brianna Ford, who is deputy director of the university’s Innocence Project Clinic. All agreed they must work together to erase the legacy of racism in their field.

Across town at Morgan State University, a separate forum — “Lynching in Maryland: The Journey from Truth to Reconciliation" — was hosted Saturday by the Maryland Lynching Memorial Project. The effort is aimed at assessing and dismantling the entrenched legacy and ongoing impact of the lynchings of black people in Maryland, including 41 cases documented in the state from 1854 to 1933.

The issue of “restorative justice” was discussed, just as it was at the University of Baltimore. But also considered were the effects of racism on the health of black Americans, the need for restorative practices in Baltimore schools and structural racism and segregation that still exist in the state’s higher education system.

David Fakunle, the acting chairman of the Maryland Commission on Truth and Reconciliation, which is considering the best way for the state to address and make amends for its racist past, said in the months ahead, he intends to lead more tough discussions. He said that’s part of a needed “referendum on racism in our country" where “there is nothing off the table.”

Fakunle at one point led the room of 150 or so attendees in a call-and-response exercise based on words printed on his shirt: “Respect my existence, or expect my resistance.”

^^^ The bad thing is A LOT of politicians think like that!
Kim Foxx, Cook Co States Attorney, Timothy Evans, Chief Judge, and Toni Prekwinkle, Cook Co President have repeatedly said "Too many black and brown people in jail"

Look at the mindset of Oakland, New York, Chicago... Oh, we all know they are Democratic Utopias...

The police command staff and officer complement of the Baltimore Police is over 60% minority, predominantly black.

The corruption follows the numbers - and contrary to Mosby's (now, largely discredited) claims, is not an indictment of white folks anywhere.