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I work less than two miles from the famous Valley Forge National Park and saw this article last week which I find fascinating! It appears that a cache of 30 bayonets from the Revolutionary War was discovered buried there, most likely during the time of the 1777-1778 encampment there under General George Washington. These troops had very little in the way of equipment and uniforms so it's a little odd that they would throw away 30 good bayonets like that. The article mentions that they appear to have been for one type of musket but were had some sort of attempted modification to make them fit another musket, as nothing was universal or standardized in those days. Some theories as to why they were left there: 1. Superior models had arrived from the French and these were obsolete 2. Someone buried them with the idea to come back for them but never did 3. They were buried as not to fall into enemy hands
Makes you wonder what else is under the dirt there! I had read somewhere that just due to nature that the ground level of the troops there in 1777-1778 is actually like a foot or more below what the current ground level is today. A Stash of 30 Hidden Bayonets Was Discovered in Valley Forge | ||
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Cat Whisperer |
very cool. I often forget how lucky we are to live so close to such historic places. Last sunday I took the wife to old city, she has lived in this area for 30 years and never saw betsy ross' house, where ben franklin is buries, THE LIBERTY BELL?!?! It was a great day and I strongly suggest it. ------------------------------------ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246R | |||
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Alienator |
Very cool find! SIG556 Classic P220 Carry SAS Gen 2 SAO SP2022 9mm German Triple Serial P938 SAS P365 FDE Psalm 118:24 "This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it" | |||
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Sigless in Indiana |
The man who buried those may have shaken the hand of George Washington. He almost certainly heard him speak and stood in his presence. It is kind of humbling to think about. Imaging being the first man to handle those after a man who fought for our independence buried them. This is the kind of history that I just can't get enough of. | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
It is very cool to think of that being the case. This is one of my favorite pictures of Washington at Valley Forge. It was a particularly cold and brutal winter when they arrived in December 1777, I've been to the annual "March In" held there every December 19th to commemorate the Continental Army's arrival there and the one night I was there it was crazy bitter cold and windy and I can only imagine how hard that had to be to try and survive there. | |||
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Serenity now! |
This is such an awesome find! Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice - pull down your pants and slide on the ice. ʘ ͜ʖ ʘ | |||
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Staring back from the abyss |
Looks like a couple of them have been used. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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teacher of history |
In 1964, I spent a week at Valley Forge at the Boy Scout Jamboree. It is indeed a very special place. | |||
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You can do anything with a bayonet except sit on them. (Attributed to Thomas Hardy, Napoleon Bonaparte, and others). --------------------- DJT-45/47 MAGA !!!!! "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." — Mark Twain “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” — H. L. Mencken | |||
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Info Guru |
One of those could have belonged to my great...grandfather or his brother! That's really cool to think about. If you are into genealogy you can check the muster rolls of Valley Forge and see if you have a relative who may have been there. http://valleyforgemusterroll.org/ My great...grandfather and brother were there, my grandfather was listed as 'sick in tent' in May of 1778. He was in the 8th Virginia, commanded by Captain Jonathan Clark - William Clark's oldest brother. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Very cool. I found a relative on the roll. Sic Semper Tyrannis If you beat your swords into plowshares, you will become farmers for those who didn't! Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners-George Carlin | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Some years back I saw this singer Eliza Gilkyson open up for Richard Thompson at a concert, turns out she had a relative at Valley Forge; Major-General Jedidiah Huntington and wrote a song about it based on writings and notes she found of his. It's pretty folksy and not up to some people's tastes but I loved the words:
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10mm is The Boom of Doom |
I'd guess that they were throw away 'cuz the were rusty. God Bless and Protect the Once and Future President, Donald John Trump. | |||
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Nosce te ipsum |
That is pretty amazing. As a teenager, VF was our stomping grounds. The 1970s "Visitors Center" was barely locked. Looked as simple as "Crack a pane and reach in to unlock the door". No camera or alarm. A large display of battle axes and pikes was completely unsecured. Stuck into a crafted box with dividers, like you might see shovels displayed at a hardware store. Weapons which were old during the revolution. I was always fascinated. | |||
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Any Nazi memorabilia found? Para posted about Valley Forge earlier in another thread. | |||
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delicately calloused |
"Superior models had arrived from the French and these were obsolete" I'd choose French super models over rusty old spikes any day..... You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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Glorious SPAM! |
That's amazing. What would make French bayonets superior and would they fit the rifles the Americans had? | |||
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Dies Irae |
It's possible they had Charleville muskets and the bayonets en route would've been specifically for them. Superior? Probably metallurgy. | |||
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Admin/Odd Duck |
History is cool. So is cosmoline. ____________________________________________________ New and improved super concentrated me: Proud rebel, heretic, and Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal. There is iron in my words of death for all to see. So there is iron in my words of life. | |||
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