https://x.com/WallStreetApes/s.../1906526419079082173

This is from March. Didn’t we already go through this?

But but but, “There is no widespread election cheating!” screech the anti-American shit-stain democRATS.

Individuals who enabled the SS numbers being issued to illegals should be harshly prosecuted. Giving the illegals maximum SS payout is infuriating! Make everyone involved in this theft reimburse the system plus do serious prison time.

It isn't enough to shut down these things, including more recent revelations like giving illegals CDLs. Perps need to be harshly punished, in part to deter future such things.

If you think illegals are getting max SS retirement benefits, they're likely not. Go to the website (SSA.gov) and see how the benefits are calculated. It's based on earnings over the years. Disability benefits, maybe. The more significant factor is their population distribution. They are counted in the census. Congressional representation is based on population, so a large concentration of illegals gives that area an additional congressperson.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Biden administration found some way to manipulate the numbers so illegals were getting maximum benefits but the bottom line is none of them should have SSN numbers and none of them should be receiving a dollar in benefits. Hopefully the Republicans will gain seats in the midterms so Trump can continue to push his policies and with any luck Vance will take over after Trump finishes his second term and all these democrat criminals can be brought to justice, tried and sent to prison.

Here we go again. Illegal aliens do NOT get SS numbers. Period. If you show up at a SS office to apply for a new SS number, you must submit proof of citizenship, or proof that you are in the United States legally. If you are an alien, your immigration status is checked with INS BEFORE the number is issued. SSA computers have had access to the INS data base for many years. It's checked before SSA issues the card.

Before I get accused of saying there is no fraud at SSA, let me be clear. There is fraud at SSA. Just not this kind of fraud. I have assisted with and supervised a number of fraud investigations before I retired. SSA OIG does the heavy lifting with these cases, but field office staff does the initial work. Here is a link showing some of the criminal investigations and convictions that have occurred this year.

https://oig.ssa.gov/news-releases/2025/

As far as medicaid goes, I have seen Republicans complain about all the illegals on medicaid. The Dems respond "That's not true. You know illegals don't qualify for medicaid." Here's the facts. No illegals can go into a Social Services office and sign up for medicaid. They must submit proof of citizenship or lawful permit residence status before qualifying. I don't know if every social services office has access to the INS data base. Perhaps they have to depend on just reviewing INS documents. Side note. Even if an alien is in the country legally, not all of them qualify for medicaid. For example anyone in the US on a visitor visa or student visa won't qualify. Some of the fake INS documents I have seen are quite good, so some may slip through if a social service office has no access to the data base. I just don't know about this.

So why do Republicans say that they do get medicaid? Here's why. Hospitals get reimbursed with some medicaid funds for uninsured people who walk into an emergency room for treatment. Of course some of those who are uninsured are in the country illegally. No hospital ever checks immigration status. They aren't equipped to do that. So in kind of a back door way some illegals do get medicaid funds. But they don't qualify for an individual medicaid card.

Thanks for showing up again, Fed161. I was going to bring up your past threads but figured having you popping in fresh would be better.

FED161 that is the way the law is suppose to work and we all know the law was perverted when Biden was in charge. Now we have illegal aliens driving 80,000 pound trucks who can not speak English. I bet they are paying social security, who gave them a card or a drivers license.

A large part of the people that came in were coached or already knew to claim asylum. We know the majority of these claims are a ruse.

If someone enters the U.S. under a claim of asylum they are allowed to work in the U.S. and be issued a social security number. All those NGO's that helped transport migrants here and even built camps in other countries told them how to enter and what to say at the border. We all saw it happening.

They may be here under asylum law but we all knew that was a farce.

https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0110211185

Program Operations Manual System (POMS)

Policy for evidence of refugee status
Treat Social Security number (SSN) applicants who submit evidence of refugee status as permanent resident aliens with permanent employment authorization from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). We issue refugees unrestricted SSN cards (cards without a legend).

NOTE: Refugees applying for an original SSN may submit only one document to prove age, identity, and immigration status for an SSN card (i.e. I-94 website printout with Department of State Transportation Boarding Letter with Refugee Admission Stamp). For more information, see RM 10210.020.

Acceptable evidence of refugee status
1. Form I-94 (Arrival Departure Record) with refugee admission stamp
The Form I-94 presented by a refugee must have an admission stamp that shows the:

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legend “Admitted as a refugee/dependent pursuant to Section 207 of the Immigration & Nationality Act. If you DEPART the United States, you will need PRIOR PERMISSION to return;”

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port of entry (POE), date of inspection, and inspection officer's identification; and

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words “EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZED.”

In addition, Form I-94 issued to a refugee:



More at links




https://www.uscis.gov/humanita...ibilities-of-asylees

Benefits and Responsibilities of Asylees

Obtaining a Social Security Card

You may immediately apply for an unrestricted Social Security card at a Social Security office once you have asylees status. You can get Social Security Card information by contacting the Social Security Administration. For more information, see the Social Security Administration website.

Is it possible that employers are handing out bogus SSNs, "withholding" the taxes and pocketing the money? I think this is very probable in many cases, and any caught doing that should be [insert your choice of creative punishment].

wcb6092 your post is accurate. Nothing you posted conflicts with what I said. I agree completely with you that under Biden the asylum law was abused. But bottom line once they are granted asylum then the law says they are entitled to an SSN. So the abuse happened when they were granted asylum, not when SSA issued a SS number (which the law requires).

The most horrible thing Biden did was to let all those illegal aliens cross the border illegally. Yes there was an abuse of the asylum process. But that's small potatoes compared to the millions who just walked over the border without checking in with INS. Those who went through a valid check point and applied for asylum are a tiny fraction of all those who crossed the border illegally. I think of all the grief, political turmoil and mayhem that this invasion has caused our country and it makes me angry.

Speaking generally about illegals working, fake SS cards and fake INS documents are not hard to come by. I have seen many. Are these illegals (who aren't working under the table) paying SS taxes. Yes. Absolutely. When SSA tax money comes in under an invalid SSN, the money still goes into the trust fund, but it stays in the suspense file. There are billions of dollars in the suspense file. Money in the suspense file has kept the trust fund in the black for a long time.