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Originally posted by dsiets:
Paging ensigmatic ...

Ok... As of August 5th I would have been all in on this. I had Apple Pay. All my cards were in it and I had an Apple Card. I used Apple Pay whenever and wherever I could.

Then, on August 6th, came Apple's announcement of a truly, truly, execrably bad idea.

But it wasn't just that. Member Jupiter told me, in Apple To Abandon ... Privacy And Security "For The Children", that Apple's privacy and security weren't all they promised them to be, but I didn't buy it. Since then, I've done a bit of digging on my own.

The result of all this: I no longer trust Apple's security or privacy.

I no longer have an Apple Card. Our other cards have been removed from Apple Pay, my Apple Cash transferred to our checking account, the account info deleted, and Apple Pay shut down entirely.

I've all-but-emptied all storage on iCloud. Turned off nearly all iCloud access/storage on all my Apple devices. Shut down all telemetry with Apple's servers. I no longer use the Apple email app. What little my Apple email account was used for has been moved to another server (my own) and my Apple email account cleared-out entirely. Was using HomeKit extensively. That's history. Siri is shut off on all devices entirely. She can't even be awakened with button-presses anymore.

We have otherwise disentangled ourselves from the Apple ecosystem to the extent possible, short of getting rid of our Apple hardware. That will come next. By this time in a year, maybe less, two at the most, I expect we'll have little, if any, Apple products remaining in the ensigmatic household. (Probably all that will remain will be the Apple TV streamers--and I wouldn't bet on even that.)

So, those of you so-inclined: Go for it. As for me: I'm with Para: Blow it out your ass, Apple.

Trying to talk the wife and kids into following your lead....

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:
Trying to talk the wife and kids into following your lead....

Good luck with that. Most people do not appreciate the nature of the threat.

It's kind of like Niemöller's "First they came..." It doesn't affect people obviously, directly, so it's easy to dismiss it as unimportant.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

Ok... As of August 5th I would have been all in on this. I had Apple Pay. All my cards were in it and I had an Apple Card. I used Apple Pay whenever and wherever I could.

Then, on August 6th, came Apple's announcement of a truly, truly, execrably bad idea.

....

The result of all this: I no longer trust Apple's security or privacy.

You're clearly not the only one, and it seems Apple took notice. Though I can't help but notice that they're not abandoning the idea but just tapping the brakes.

Apple to take more time to roll out child safety features after criticism
https://finance.yahoo.com/news...child-131753357.html

More than 90 policy and rights groups around the world told Apple last month it should abandon plans for scanning children’s messages for nudity and the phones...

"Based on feedback from customers, advocacy groups, researchers and others, we have decided to take additional time over the coming months to collect input and make improvements before releasing these critically important child safety features," the company said in a statement on Friday.

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Originally posted by spunk639:
An agency that has done nothing to stop terrorism and creates insane rules. No thanks.

But just look at all the jobs it provides to people who are too dumb to work at WalMart.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
You're clearly not the only one, and it seems Apple took notice.

Apparently I'm not and apparently they did. Kind of surprising, really. It's too little, too late, IMO, but it's something.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Though I can't help but notice that they're not abandoning the idea but just tapping the brakes.

Yup. So I'm tapping the brakes on our exodus from the Apple ecosystem, but I won't be going back in any further than we are at this point and will probably still continue heading out.

I won't say the news doesn't please me, however.

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Originally posted by spunk639:

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Originally posted by Flash-LB:
The part about TSA accepting this is what makes it tempting for me.

This is the major reason I don't want it.

An agency that has done nothing to stop terrorism and creates insane rules. No thanks.

They'll Steal Anything
Too Stupid For Arby's
Thousands Standing Around

Mark of the beast arrives

This sadly brings up memories of movies like The Fifth Element, and Demolition Man. It’s quite terrifying actually.

I'm gonna hard pass on that, because fuck Apple.