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What the hell's going on in Colorado?


The Democratic-controlled Colorado State Senate voted this week to join other blue states in a pact aimed at getting rid of the Electoral College system.

The Senate on Monday approved a bill adding Colorado to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. That pact would change the way presidents are picked by allocating each state's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote – regardless of how the state votes.


In theory, the game-changing compact only takes effect once it signs on states representing at least 270 electoral votes, the threshold to win the presidency. With the addition of Connecticut's seven electoral votes last year, the group now has 172.

Colorado would be the 13th jurisdiction to join the pact if the state’s House also passes it and the state's Democratic governor signs it into law.

“This really is a victory for those who believe that every vote should be counted equally,” Democratic state Sen. Mike Foote told Fox Denver 31.

The uphill campaign, if ever brought to fruition, would almost certainly face a court challenge. It has gained renewed attention amid Democrats grumbling about the Electoral College in the wake of President Trump's 2016 win. While he defeated Hillary Clinton in the electoral vote, he lost the popular vote by 2.9 million ballots.

The pact is meant to be a work-around to the constitutional requirements that created the Electoral College system, which awards each state's electors to the winner of that state.

Others that have joined the pact include Connecticut, California, Hawaii, Illinois, Massachusetts, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and the District of Columbia — all places where Clinton defeated Trump in 2016.

But critics say the pact would actually hurt smaller states like Connecticut, given that candidates would be likely to only focus on large population centers and neglect rural areas.

And from a constitutional perspective, the proposal could also run into obvious legal challenges.

“Not only did the framers of the Constitution expressly reject the idea of a direct, popular election for president, but also not one state either in the wake of ratification or at any time thereafter has ever sought to appoint its presidential electors on the basis of votes cast outside the state, as the National Popular Vote Compact requires,” law professor Norman R. Williams argued in the BYU Law Review.

Trump has not publicly supported The National Popular Vote Compact. But he has said he would prefer picking a president based on the popular vote.

“I would rather have a popular election, but it's a totally different campaign," Trump said last year during an interview with "Fox & Friends."

The plan has been pushed for the last several years, and proponents are working to get other states to pass legislation joining the pact.

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...toral-college-system
 
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Even if these commies could get enough States onboard for this unAmerican crap, I can't see how it would survive a supreme court challenge.

It's amazing (well not really) how little these state dems think about their own voters; so much so that they would just throw away the results of their own state in order to conform to those from other states. Pathetic.


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These mental midgets have no idea whatsoever WHY the damn system is built the way it is to begin with. Uneducated morons, ruining our country. The republic (they don't know what that is either) is doomed.


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Obviously they think they've perfected a sure fire unfailing way to rig the ballot box in their favor. Without that, the electoral college is their enemy. Sort of like that whole pesky troublesome Constitution thing.
 
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It's amazing (well not really) how little these state dems think about their own voters; so much so that they would just throw away the results of their own state in order to conform to those from other states. Pathetic.


Yeah, every time a GDC states their opposition to voter ID it's because they say they want 'every vote counted'. When in actuality they only want the votes THEY want counted. The rest can get thrown into the closest dumpster.


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That pact would change the way presidents are picked by allocating each state's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote – regardless of how the state votes.


So theoretically, every voter in CO could vote for person A. And all of the electoral votes could go to person B? Yeah, that seems fair.
 
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It's amazing (well not really) how little these state dems think about their own voters; so much so that they would just throw away the results of their own state in order to conform to those from other states. Pathetic.


Yeah, every time a GDC states their opposition to voter ID it's because they say they want 'every vote counted'. When in actuality they only want the votes THEY want counted. The rest can get thrown into the closest dumpster.


This is the only way the mother fuckers can win.

Last election in AZ, Bastards couldn't find my name on the registration sheet, even after I showed them my voter reg card (GOP). They then tried to get me to sign a provisional ballot before I pointed out my name to them. All they could say was "Oops".


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That pact would change the way presidents are picked by allocating each state's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote – regardless of how the state votes.




Do they not realize such a scheme could go against them at some future date? Roll Eyes
 
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I looked up Dem Senator Mike Foote. He’s a real sweetheart


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Some states already use "proportional assignment" of their Electors based on how the individual Congressional districts voted. The 2 for Senators are assigned to the overall winner in the state.

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I love my home State. But I fucking hate what's happened here. The politics are totally off the rails.


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